Evil Forces are Gathering

[JohnBoy]

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They'll go on for warrants and then the other standard TRX mufflers will go back on. The chrome ones that seem to weigh a little less than the "new" standard ones that is.

i have done that too, just brought a full arrow race exhaust for my Zed cause it was cheap (but mainy cause i crashed the other week ).
if i get pulled over by the FUZZ im just gonna say its standard, dont think hes gonna argue.

[rodgerd]

I think this Kissling bloke is on the right track to be honest. If there's an objective goal post of so many dB(A) then at least people can design and test for it without wasting their cash.

Indeed. I dislike the subjective tests - too easy for someone who hs it in for bikes/boy racers/whatever to just fail you, and no way to challenge.

Mind you, from the other noise legislation I've seen proposed in this country (anyone else see the BIA review on apartment noise?? They're as stupid as the LTSA) any objective limits will be way too low anyway (just like the police guidelines out at the moment that would fail even stock vehicles)

Yeah, it does seem insane. Apartments are near and dear to my heart as a Wellingtonian - I'm sick of shitheads who move into town and try to get everything closed down because "I have a right to not hear any noise after 10 on a Friday night'.

[HanaBelle]

Yep... It is about time that someone gets into the beehive from this site and lays the smack down. The rules are heavily leaned towards cages, so why not have a good guy in the hornets nest?

PS, by Forces of Evil, I though you were talking about Bush 'winning' the elections again :eyepoke: :sly: (all the slightly relavent ones in the box I could find

Heyyyyyy theres a lot of those lil guys with signs in here {duped}

:-))))

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[Skyryder]

Bottom line: there's more quiet cars, than noisy cars: there's more cars than bikes. Decibil tests as part of the warrent is going to come becasue there are not enough of us to stop it. Period.

Personaly I would like to see a decibel test on car stereo's. I've been waiting at lights in the bus and a car pulls up along side and the radio is that loud the bus vibrates. And that's the truth.

Skyryder

[pipeman]

Just a short word where are they going to test these noisey exhausts?
Don't think it will happen unless they spend $$$$$$ on quiet rooms to stop outside interference noise from normaly the WOF stations. Do you think they will go "Quiet everyone we are doing a noisey test"
No sir don't thing so

[Motu]

A noise test is going to be too hard - the easiest way is to make sure the muffler complies with a known standard,this will be stamped on the muffler....and if it's not there,well,you're just outa luck sonny.

[FROSTY:Me]

sorry guys but it seems some of the testing stations already have dba meters

[SPman]

sorry guys but it seems some of the testing stations already have dba meters

Its one thing having a DBa meter....its another knowing how to use it properly!

[Motu]

I've got one - your bike will fail,I don't care what you've got it will fail.

[Blakamin]

A noise test is going to be too hard - the easiest way is to make sure the muffler complies with a known standard,this will be stamped on the muffler....and if it's not there,well,you're just outa luck sonny.

Hope they go the european standard... mines already stamped...
shame its noisier than my CBR with a bafflectomy

[James Deuce]

Hope they go the european standard... mines already stamped...
shame its noisier than my CBR with a bafflectomy

You might be really surprised to find it's quieter overall. With a twin you have transient peaks, where a 4 has a more constant noise level. It's like the difference between an unamplified drumkit and a cello played at forte. The drumkit appears louder to the casual listener because of the transient nature of the sound level peaks, where in fact the cello is generating more sound pressure.

Bike's are really noisy overall because of the exposed nature of their mechanical parts. Cars are relatively easy to make quiet, by concentrating on engine bay and transmission noise. As someone has mentioned though, tyre noise on coarse chip can be really nasty.

[MikeL]

And when, I wonder, will my neighbour's lawnmower be required to have an approved muffler and not exceed 75 or 80db or whatever level is considered an appropriate threshhold?

[James Deuce]

And when, I wonder, will my neighbour's lawnmower be required to have an approved muffler and not exceed 75 or 80db or whatever level is considered an appropriate threshhold?

I don't know, but I really want an expansion chamber for my weed whacker. Then I could clear trees. At 5am on Sundays.

[vifferman]

I see the aforementioned report has made The Harold this morning.

I was walking down the street, concentrating on truckin' right... when a bus took off from the bus-stop (and it was bigger and louder than 10cc). Man, it was fookin' loud. Yet as far as I know, buses and trucks are exempt from noise and emissions testing, right? Which makes the whole thing a bit bogus.

After I bought my (bafflectomied) FahrtSturm, I took it into a coupla places to see what they'd say about its chances of passing a WOF. Kerry at Motohaus just said, "Nup. And I won't pass anything with "Race Use Only" stamped on it, nor any {can't remember the brand}". At NTNZ or VINZ or whatever, I left the bike idling, and asked the tester dude/dick/halfwit what he thought. He just stood there, apparently comatose, for about 30 seconds, then bent down and wiped the road spooge off the top of the muffler, to reveal the Murkn "Complies with 90dB standard blah blah" stamp. Went back into a coma for another half minute or so, gave the throttle a blip, wet himself, coma again, then moved his head a little to look at the rear of the muffler.
"This endcap's been cut out. You're not allowed to modify the muffler."
"So.... will it pass?"
"Nup. See - it says here it passes the test. But someone's modified it. That's not allowed."

I think all the 'preganant pauses' (i.e., comatose interludes) were Mr Testerman enjoying his wee moment of power. Pffffft. It didn't work for me.

So the FahrtungSturmer has been for one (1) WOF test since then, with its spuds/plugs/pacifiers/shihads and didn't raise an eyebrow.
It's still louder'n stock, quieter than when I bought it, louder than when I fitted the spuds/plugs/pacifiers/shihads, not quite tuneful enough to sound as a V-twin should, quiet enough not to attract unwelcome attention, and looks (at a cursory glance) to be stock.
If it fails future tests, I can easily quieten it down, temporarily or otherwise, or fit more acceptable zorsts.

It raises an interesting question though: If a zorst is stamped with the approval thingo, then modified, but passes some 'objective' test, will it satisfy the bureaucrats, or will they word any regulations so as to effectively continue to be open to interpretation and therefore subjective?

[Blakamin]

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It raises an interesting question though: If a zorst is stamped with the approval thingo, then modified, but passes some 'objective' test, will it satisfy the bureaucrats, or will they word any regulations so as to effectively continue to be open to interpretation and therefore subjective?

Very interesting... mine is of the Duc variety that could be repacked by drilling out some rivets so any prick at VTNZ can get screwed... it passed a WoF the day I bought it!