Driving penalties to get tougher

[davereid]

"legislation will be modelled on the same Sharia law that gave that Saudi rape victim 200 lashes and 2 years in prison for letting 7 men pack rape her."


To a certain extent ACC is a bit like Sharia Law... Its argued that motorcyclists cost more to patch up than car drivers, thus its fair to charge bikers more for ACC.

The sums may be different if they took into consideration who caused the accident rather than who cost the repair bill !

But... Speed certainly causes a lot of single-vehicle motorcycle accidents

[The Pastor]

Oh great, and everyone knows that ANY speed above what is on a sign is SUPER DANGEROURS.

basTARDS.

Would be nice if buy dangerous they ment people who pour deisl on the road, or people who change lanes as quickly as possible ( note, bikes should be excluded as we all know cars dont see them no matter how slow you go). Or driters etc etc.

Oh no the real bad guys are the ones rolling down (i.e., no throttle) 65 down hill in a 50.

Speed does not = safe or not safe. Drivers/riders = safe or not safe.

[Renegade]

bad buzzzz!!!!!

[Genestho]

Interesting, this is in line with an email I recieved from Peter Brown, New Zealand first.
Last week I asked him what were the outcomes of an enquiry he had asked for on May 25 2007, in regards to Driving Practices in NZ (Main Points were Recidivist Drink Drivers and BoyRacers)

Im quite happy to share this email:

Dear Jos

I acknowledge receipt of your recent email.

I know words are not very adequate but in reality they are all we have and I do extend my sincere sympathy to you and your family/friends on the loss of your husband and his friends.

You do not need me to tell you that the ‘accident’ should never have happened. If the drunk driver had been kept off the road it would not have. You are correct, I did call for an enquiry into drunk driving and recidivist offenders. Much work was done behind the scenes to effect this or, alternatively, tighten up the laws.

It is in the latter area I am hopeful of having some success. The Ministers (Transport and Transport Safety) contemplated introducing a bill in the New Year addressing the driving licence. At the discussions I have had with them I have been assured that such legislation will include a far tougher stance on drunken drivers. I have put my ideas in detail, in writing, and have been assured they will be seriously considered.

In summary, the ideas I have presented revolve around the concept that ‘if society cannot stop the driver we should be able to restrict his/her access to a vehicle, either his/hers or those of others’. The penalties for breach will be huge.

When this bill eventuates – hopefully in the early months of the New Year, the public will be able to outline concerns and remedies and have the law changed when the bill is passed. It could represent a speedier solution to the problem over drunk drivers than a review would.

Finally, I thank you for your enquiry and I hope I have addressed the issue.

Yours sincerely



Peter Brown MP
Deputy Leader & Whip
NEW ZEALAND FIRST
Phone: (04)470-6697
Fax: (04)499-9108

At this point I asked can I let the cat out of the bag on this news.

I have no problem whatsoever in you mentioning that there is a new bill in the pipeline expected to be tabled in Parliament early next year. It is not yet in Parliament and thus far I am no sure actually how the Government will address the issue of drunk/recidivist drivers. All I know is, on behalf of NZ First, I have pushed the matter exceedingly hard – both in discussions with Ministers and officials and in writing.

I have outlined ideas in detail and have been given the assurance that the new bill will address drunk/recidivist drivers and, in doing so, meaningful consideration will be given the ideas put forward by myself on behalf of my party.

I trust this clarifies the position - but a word of advice/encouragement – go for it – it is a big issue (you do not need me to tell you that) and speaking out (never mind getting me or anyone else into trouble) can only do some good. In short, tell the world New Zealanders are sick of drunk/recidivist drivers. We have had enough of them and we are going to put a stop to the practice.

All the best.

Peter Brown MP
Deputy Leader & Whip
NEW ZEALAND FIRST
Phone: (04)470-6697
Fax: (04)499-9108

When I see this bill, if it is specific and has what Im seeking I will be encouraging a major public campaign, as of now what Im aware with this particular bill, it has nothing to do with Motorcyclists.

However obviously there is a number of initiatives in the pipeline. Which could mean anything.

[Genestho]

O dear - missed the Motorcycling Safety bit in white Bold in the bottom of first Post.
Oh well, sorry bout that

[mstriumph]

I heard that they are going to introduce penalties for bikes that crash into police cars that suddenly turn across their path. To be fair to all parties the legislation will be modelled on the same Sharia law that gave that Saudi rape victim 200 lashes and 2 years in prison for letting 7 men pack rape her.

PRICELESS!!

bling awarded

[Grahameeboy]

Lets wait and see before we start to wobble our knees eh?

For around $700 you can get a decent radar detector so that decision for some of us may be easier if they do put fines up.

[mstriumph]

.............It never ceases to amaze me, that governments around the world equate tougher laws and penalties with "safety" - like a bully threatening its victim!

You do this or else! A legalised protection racket!

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but more renumerative ......

[discotex]

Lets wait and see before we start to wobble our knees eh?

For around $700 you can get a decent radar detector so that decision for some of us may be easier if they do put fines up.

sssshhhhhhh!!!!

You might give them ideas about banning them as well!

[Grahameeboy]

sssshhhhhhh!!!!

You might give them ideas about banning them as well!

Well maybe not if you look at this survey which suggests that radar detector users are safer...

http://www.radardetectors.co.uk/morisurvey.pdf

[discotex]

Well maybe not if you look at this survey which suggests that radar detector users are safer...

http://www.radardetectors.co.uk/morisurvey.pdf

Only problem is that proof that they are safer means banning is more likely the way laws/rules are being drafted in this country.

Might want to keep that PDF away from LTNZ and other associated cronies.

[Grahameeboy]

Only problem is that proof that they are safer means banning is more likely the way laws/rules are being drafted in this country.

Might want to keep that PDF away from LTNZ and other associated cronies.

Cynic

I don't see this one happening though..........

[discotex]

Cynic

I don't see this one happening though..........

hehe yep when it comes to roading policy I am.

Think you're right though. Radar detectors are expensive enough that most people don't bother which means there's not enough revenue to be made from ticketing people for using them

[RantyDave]

http://stuff.co.nz/4332694a10.html

"introducing demerit points for radar detectors and other detection and interference devices;"

No officer, it tells me when my mobile is ringing. It's bluetooth, see.

Actually, you probably could make a bluetooth radar detector. Hmmmm.

Dave

Edit: Similar thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=63495 - mods want to merge?

[What?]

As part of the Gummint's new Road "Safety" Strategy, fines for minor offenses are to be reduced, but demerits will increase (no specific mention of speeds, but 3 times no seatbelt = no licence is one example provided)

And RADAR DETECTORS ARE TO BE BANNED.

Coming soon to a highway near you...