For Fucks Sake! Fourth fucking bin! Give me a break!

[Mikkel]

Too bad about your spill! Shit happens - that's why we wear helmets I guess...

Good on ya for not letting it get you off the 2-wheeled way. And here's to hoping that you'll walk away from your spills with some good experience. It would be bad if the only thing you gained from it was mad skills at binning

And kudos for posting your experiences here, it's always good to share IMHO.
And the great thing about KB is that you're likely to get a lot of responses from very different perspectives. Also, it's so nice to see how everyone appreciate this fact and get along nicely...

Oh yes there is. Katman is MY biking god.

oh - sorry did I say God - I was supposed to say one track, moaning, boring, git.

Seriously Katman - Every reasonable person can see (from whats posted) that this bin was an unlucky one that could have caught any of us.

Give the guy a break.

Oh FFS...piss off with your bullshit. If you were really serious about 'your campaign', you would be offering help or suggestions. Nobody is interested in your crap.

Oh FFS! Katman actually thought he believed in biker gods... what planet is the guy on????
Oh well, life must be shit with the glass always being 1/2 empty??

I don't usually post for this type of crap, but that was to much!!! Walks away shaking his head............................


By the way Dryrider that was the best written bitch seasion I've read on KB for a long while.
1000 points for the post and may your luck change from this point on!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone want a tui? My shout!

[99TLS]

good to hear it hasnt put you off motorcycles, hopefully you get them out of the way before you get on a bigger bike as they hurt more the faster you go

[Bonez]

Keep riding mate. Ignor the negitive shit on this thread and take in the possitive. I have a biker angle and pixie dust which has given me protection from my last three offs (over as many months).

Seems like plain bad luck with the deisel.(Even Katman has admitted this can occur)

Good on ya for asking for help btw.

[PirateJafa]

Seriously Katman - Every reasonable person can see (from whats posted) that this bin was an unlucky one that could have caught any of us.

Oh no, Katman would never have binned it.

I heard Katman took the same corner at 100km/h balancing on his front tyre while doing a handstand, and pulled it off because he's a "mature rider". True story.

[homer]

dont know if youve riden a bike on a shingle road
but if not thats where you will learn a lot of contol

not just in the vehicle lanes but get in to the deeper shingle
dont go to fast about 40 60 km
and you ll get a different feel

the secret is dont try to correct the movement
after a while the bike rides its self

this is just a thought ....but its where i learned to ride

I had heps of minor bins in the river bed , its a good place to bin as you get used to the hurt after a while

[Macstar]

In the last 2 weeks did you attend the Mon or Wed learner evenings?

You've asked for help in the past and people have given it to you Dushy and although it's early days in your riding career I do not think 4 bins is coincidental (granted last bin was a real bitch). I think you need to get off the public roads and learn to ride elsewhere before you truly hurt yourself or others. Sorry mate, I'm being frank but I've been riding with you a few times now and feel semi-qualified on your situation.

I don't want to see you go down for good - talk to Kittyhawk about cruising around the Mt Welly track.

[homer]

In the last 2 weeks did you attend the Mon or Wed learner evenings?

You've asked for help in the past and people have given it to you Dushy and although it's early days in your riding career I do not think 4 bins is coincidental (granted last bin was a real bitch). I think you need to get off the public roads and learn to ride elsewhere before you truly hurt yourself or others. Sorry mate, I'm being frank but I've been riding with you a few times now and feel semi-qualified on your situation.

I don't want to see you go down for good - talk to Kittyhawk about cruising around the Mt Welly track.

Id agree with you totally

[ital916]

haha yeah i'd agree with you guys too but seeing as i need to ride my bike places. I'll def turn up to as many learner things as possible. Oh and four bins was bad luck. One bin down to newbie to riding and three to just plain bad luck! Talking of bad luck, turns out my rear tires air plug is short and decided to bleed air, had to ride to squiggles on a 3/4 flatty to help figure it out! Now oyu tell me whether thats my fault and if a lesson will help me learn to ride on bloody flat tires lol

[Katman]

haha yeah i'd agree with you guys too but seeing as i need to ride my bike places. I'll def turn up to as many learner things as possible. Oh and four bins was bad luck. One bin down to newbie to riding and three to just plain bad luck! Talking of bad luck, turns out my rear tires air plug is short and decided to bleed air, had to ride to squiggles on a 3/4 flatty to help figure it out! Now oyu tell me whether thats my fault and if a lesson will help me learn to ride on bloody flat tires lol

No, not bad luck - bad management. FFS, you sound like one of these riders that will forever blame their mishaps on anything and everything other than themselves.

[YellowDog]

Drider mate, your luck will turn for you. You are getting a lifetime of bad luck and spills out if your system. Take it easy(ier).

[ital916]

yeah i hope so, i'm a careful rider aye, just feel stink when someone tells you you shouldn't ride on public roads lol need sleeep night all.

[Macstar]

haha yeah i'd agree with you guys too but seeing as i need to ride my bike places. I'll def turn up to as many learner things as possible. Oh and four bins was bad luck. One bin down to newbie to riding and three to just plain bad luck! Talking of bad luck, turns out my rear tires air plug is short and decided to bleed air, had to ride to squiggles on a 3/4 flatty to help figure it out! Now oyu tell me whether thats my fault and if a lesson will help me learn to ride on bloody flat tires lol

At the last learner ride we covered the whole checking tyre air pressure before riding, a crucial lesson for you I would have thought given your previous citing of tyres being the culprit of at least one of your bins.

But then, surprise, surprise just days later after the lesson and yet another bin you admit to riding with a semi-flat tyre and therefore indirectly admit to not checking your tyre pressure before setting off on your ride. Either that or you rode anyway knowing your tyre needed air.

yeah i hope so, i'm a careful rider aye, just feel stink when someone tells you you shouldn't ride on public roads lol need sleeep night all.

Well, like I said, public roads are not the best place to learn to ride on. You keep binning on roads shared with cars, trucks and buses and one of them might not be able to stop in time to avoid you and your bike lying in the middle of the road from another "unlucky bin".

Sorry Dushy, you're a nice enough guy and I think a lot of people here on KB have a lot of patience and time for you - but mate?! Either take charge of your situation i.e. more lessons / riding help, maintaining and monitoring your bike properly, or get a bus pass.

Merry Xmas

[HungusMaximist]

Duchey, I'll probably catch up with you tomorrow at Stephens aye, since I gonna pass there.

We'll have a look at your bike and do something about it.!

[HTFU]

Sorry Dushy, you're a nice enough guy and I think a lot of people here on KB have a lot of patience and time for you - but mate?! Either take charge of your situation i.e. more lessons / riding help, maintaining and monitoring your bike properly, or get a bus pass.

Finally a acquaintance of one of these crazy critters tells it how it is . Big ups to Mr Macstar for his words of wisdom. None of the leave him alone he is a great rider and its just bad luck crap.

Hope dririder87 does take note of his advice. Can't argue that oil and diesel is hard work if you don't see it, but 4 bins ?

As I have said before, advice means more when it comes from someone you know and ultimately respect in some way, shape or form. This is the positive feedback some of these people need in order to change how they are riding and reduce the risks. Harder to say fuck off to someone online when you got to go riding with them again.

Personally the day I bin and survive will more than likely be the day I stop riding a motorbike. If I truly felt a bin was part of riding or inevitable then I wouldn't be doing it. With all my MTB crashes I have had, I know falling off my motorbike is going to fucking hurt, especially if it involves 100+ km/hr and other road users. 4 in such a short space of time, has to be brave or stupid .

Lets all have a happy and safe holiday with plenty of riding in there somewhere.

[xwhatsit]

If I truly felt a bin was part of riding or inevitable then I wouldn't be doing it

I wish people would get that through their thick heads. Motorcycling and crashing is not inextricably tied together. Sure, it's inherently a higher risk occupation than droning about in a Volvo S40, but that's only if you crash in the first place. Let's all learn how to ride properly so we can avoid that.

I'm still willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt. Out of four crashes (according to what he's said), two were due to mechanical issues with his bike (that he didn't pick up on -- I think I'd forgive him for that). This most recent one was due to wet roads and diesel fuel, which is something one learns how to avoid pretty quickly with a little experience on wet roads, but I'd suggest that that's still a fairly forgiveable mistake for a newb.

Just one was due to gross incompetence; running wide on a corner and hitting gravel. I did that once, a few days after I got my bike. I wasn't told to give up biking when I did that -- despite lacking any appropriate gear -- instead I was offered advice on how to avoid a repeat.

Macstar's comments give pause for thought, though. I'd make the unusual suggestion of avoiding group rides for the moment, and instead venture out with maybe one or at most two others. Choose gentle roads, and, most importantly, slow the fuck down.