Have the Police blown it?

[spudchucka]

Is New Zealand that dangerous that police officers are in fear for their lives whilst performing their duties?

More often than any of you could ever comprehend.

When was the last police officer unlawfully killed whilst on duty?

September this year - Enzo.
Prior to that 2002, Duncan Taylor. He was a proper good bugger.

Apparently (according to government figures) the average wage in NZ is about $25,000. Yes I would call a salary of twice the national average as a career start, high.

The minimum wage has just gone up to $12.00 per hour. 12 multiplied by 40 (hours) multiplied by 52 (weeks per year) equals $24,960 per annum salary / wage.

I'd hardly think that anyone of average intelligence would attempt to pass off the minimum wage as being the national average wage, the current government excluded of course.

The better method of determining whether the police starting salary is a fair salary to start on would be to look at the average wage of the demographic that they are trying to recruit taking into consideration, age, education, experience etc etc. Most people in their 30's or 40's take a fairly significant pay decrease when they join the police. Personally it cost me 20K when I joined up.

[Skyryder]

Christ I've wasted my time reading some crap on this site in the past - but Skyryder you really must have your head up your ass, or can you get someone to get you a bib for christmas, to whipe that verbal diaorrhoea from you lips!!!!

How can you say that the police are well paid on $50K per annum???
Thats a crap wage, and you know it. There is no way anyone on that income could even afford to save up to buy a house in todays market, yet alone actually pay the mortgage for the house once they've purchased it - then add to that what if they have a family, superannuation blarblarblar...
Then add on top of this, everytime they do there job they get critised by halfwits like yourself, who think anyone who wears a blue uniform is a waste of oxygen.

Why don't you actually spend half a day going out with some cops and actually see what really goes on in the job, and then come back and tell me they are underpaid.

You really have NO IDEA what your talking about!!!!

Try reading my post again. Look for the word 'start' and try and figure it's meaning in the sentance. Failing that read Mr Merd's post. He at least can comprehend english. If that is all too difficult go back to school, better start at kindergarten seems you need to understand basic grammer.

Skyrder

[spudchucka]

Try reading my post again. Look for the word 'start' and try and figure it's meaning in the sentance. Failing that read Mr Merd's post. He at least can comprehend english. If that is all too difficult go back to school, better start at kindergarten seems you need to understand basic grammer.

Skyrder

Are you trying to be the new Hitcher or something? Your grasp of the English language seems to be a strained relationship most of the time so don't poke sticks at others.

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[Blue Velvet]

The better method of determining whether the police starting salary is a fair salary to start on would be to look at the average wage of the demographic that they are trying to recruit taking into consideration, age, education, experience etc etc. Most people in their 30's or 40's take a fairly significant pay decrease when they join the police. Personally it cost me 20K when I joined up.

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What he said...

[oldrider]

I have plenty of faith in our Police force but some of the lawyers and judges that are supposed to be part of our "justice" system leave me cold.

Some of our Lawyers and judges are the biggest part of the crime problems in New Zealand. (IMHO)

If they (The lawyers and judges to whom I refer) could clean their act up the Police force would be a much more attractive proposition for recruitment.

Have the Police blown it? Generally, NO! John.

PS: Did the Rabbit Boards ever reduce the number of rabbits? Silly question really!

[MSTRS:Me]

The minimum wage has just gone up to $12.00 per hour. 12 multiplied by 40 (hours) multiplied by 52 (weeks per year) equals $24,960 per annum salary / wage.

Most people on that $12/hr do not work 40 hours/week. The 'test' for full time employment is based on 30 hours/week, but many people do less than that.
The average wage/salary in NZ is somewhere about <$35,000

[Skyryder]

There's the first fallacy in your argument.

What's the second?

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Are you trying to be the new Hitcher or something? Your grasp of the English language seems to be a strained relationship most of the time so don't poke sticks at others.

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Nothing wrong with my 'syntax.' My spelling is suspect just can't be bothered to correct it.

skyyrder

[Ixion]

There are those of course who would say that the police "blew it" in 1951, and have never recoevered the trust of the working man. If they ever had it, since others would say they "blew it" with Massey's Cossacks in 1913.

The police are there now just as they always have been, to look after the rich. If they can do so without actively attacking the poor it's the best that can be hoped for.

[spudchucka]

The police are there now just as they always have been, to look after the rich. If they can do so without actively attacking the poor it's the best that can be hoped for.

Good grief. Would you like me to bring over a noose so you can end it all now?

[Toaster]

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http://www.police.govt.nz/recruiting/role.training.html

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Upon graduation you will earn a salary of $45,271 per annum and be entitled to a total package of $50,714 per annum.

While training at Police College you are paid $34,758 per annum.

Yep... and it goes up a poultry $1,300 per year (apporximately) - well under the inflation rate.

[Toaster]

Good grief. Would you like me to bring over a noose so you can end it all now?

I am happy to supply rope.

[Toaster]

I'd normally contribute to this kind of thread in a passionate manner but I lost faith in The Herald long before thinking about losing faith in the Police.

Very well said. It is a shame most others don't see the media as you do and just take what they read (if they can if fact read) and hear as gospel.

[spudchucka]

Most people on that $12/hr do not work 40 hours/week. The 'test' for full time employment is based on 30 hours/week, but many people do less than that.
The average wage/salary in NZ is somewhere about <$35,000

No argument but as I pointed out if you want to compare things fairly, have a look at the average wage of the demographic of the most desirable recruits.

[Big Dave]

As the Inspector passed me the BBQ'd slab of Crayfish he had hauled out of the Bay of Plenty that afternoon, and the sun glistened off his pool and courtyards, I said 'Mighty fine town you're runnin' here Sherrif.'

I did suffer a momentary lapse of confidence when he offered a Steinlager, but full trust was restored with a 'Heinlager' correction.