Radar detectors could be banned

[les king]

Ixion for president. Wish i was able to express myself this well.I just wanna fide my bike as kwik as is safe while points allow. Seee u Helen shes gone.

[les king]

should read Ride thinkin bout helen brings out all the f,s in me.

[homer]

oh come on
not in this life
wernt they going to ban cellphones and car stereos
what you hear is just talk

[Mikkel]

Let's try something wothwhile - let's ban music and laughter as well and we can all be perfect worker drones in uncle Helen's little beehive!

[Swoop]

$150,000?
Cullen must be hard up for money!!!
More likely to be $150.00

Gubbinment looked into banning them in the late '80's-early '90's along with bullbars...

The next issue will be the cost of equipment in patrolcars that could be able to detect some types of detectors.

[Boob Johnson]

Ok .Seems like they want to make life a little bit harder. If they ban detectors then i will start importing and selling jammers. they are also illegal but what the hell.

Its already being done mate & has been for some time, but they are "Laser" jammers only not POP or KA jammers.

it will be interesting to see how the law is written. how could they prove that a detector was being 'used'?

from experience i know if someone has a detector and they are tracked by radar - a sudden braking action gives it away, however by the time the patrol car is behind you, the detector is in the glove box. surely they cannot make it illegal to have one in your car - even turned off.

Bit like how you can own an "ornamental" bong as long as you don't use it

Suggest when this finally comes to fruition. We find a small black box that can be bought at "The Warehouse" get the receipt, every bike rider get one and velcro it to the handlebars. Put your house key in it and your ear plugs so when you are stopped you can show the police that it is there for a reason. That makes every biker a target to be stopped and I would think after a while even the police would give up.

spd:-)

lol bling sent, brilliant

[McJim]

I am wondering if these radar detector detectors really exist. I remember enforcing the old TV licence system in the UK where we had to perpetuate the myth by rumour that TV detector vans could 'Detect' a receiver (live aerial attached to a TV that's switched on) when really we had a cross referenced list of every houshold that had paid their licence and ergo we could identify those that didn't.

Where a receiver does not emit a signal it is impossible to detect - I therefore suspect that radar detectors, which receive but do not transmit, are also undetectable and that they are trying to create the same myth 50 years later on a different subject using rumour.

Where are the scientists to prover that a receiver that doesn't transmit can be detected?

[trumpy]

John Banks tried this some years ago rabbiting on a out "research showed.." etc. Only trouble was when it was looked at more carefully the only good research they could find showed quite clearly that those using radar detectors regularly had a lower accident rate than those who didn't.
Issue quietly faded into the ether after that.

[Swoop]

Transport Safety Minister Harry Duynhoven said...
"My job is to try to save lives out there on the road - if people don't like it, tough."

You are doing a great job with the wire rope barriers mate. Keep up the good work and contradictory statements!

Suggest when this finally comes to fruition. We find a small black box that can be bought at "The Warehouse" get the receipt, every bike rider get one and velcro it to the handlebars. Put your house key in it and your ear plugs so when you are stopped you can show the police that it is there for a reason.

Just put your ipod/walkman there with headphones plugged in, so that there is a wire going to your helmet.

[Swoop]

I am wondering if these radar detector detectors really exist. I remember enforcing the old TV licence system in the UK where we had to perpetuate the myth by rumour that TV detector vans could 'Detect' a receiver (live aerial attached to a TV that's switched on) when really we had a cross referenced list of every houshold that had paid their licence and ergo we could identify those that didn't.

Where are the scientists to prover that a receiver that doesn't transmit can be detected?

I had a chat with a Snottie, some years back, who had been sent on secondment to BCNZ in Upper Hutt.
They demonstrated that the ability existed to sit outside a house (about 50 feet away) and be able to see what was being watched on a CRT screen inside the residence.
TV = no problem.
Computer screen = no problem.

He said that the amount of sheilding, that would be required to interfere with the outgoing signal from the screen, would have to be quite large.

I am presuming that newer screens (LCD/Plasma/etc) wouldn't have this issue - but I'm not sure!

[davereid]

Your radar detector has 4 main parts...

1. An antenna
2. An oscillator
3. A mixer
4. A detector

A small amount of the energy generated by the local oscillator leaks back out the antenna. This is why your radar detector will sometimes beep at other radar detectors.

So yes, your radar detector can be detected. But the level of leakage is very small, and some radar detector manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to minimise oscillator leakage.

In the real world, a well made, carefully concealed detector that was switched off as soon as it detected police radar would not be noticed.

Of course the 75 demerits will ensure you ALWAYS lose you licence if you get a speeding ticket and are found to have one.

[slopster]

I had a faulty V1 detector for a while. It would pick up every single other detector as well as what it should. Anoying as fuck but it goes to show the they do emit a signal.

[Toaster]

How do you figure it's not a right?
Could you please define a privilege as distinct from a right?

What is the message you are trying to convey there Toaster - that we should be eternally grateful that the powers that be deign to allow us plebs to use the road at their whim?

I'm a bit confused about that too. How is riding a privilege? I dinny unnastand

Quite a simple concept there chaps. We all have to earn a licence to use the roads and thereafter comply with the laws that govern that usage.

That "right" you may think you have - can and will be taken from you if you choose to spoil it for yourself by breaching the conditions of use.

We don't get to use the roads as of right.

Damn right the powers that be tell us what to do according to their agenda - whether we like it or not (and I am not saying I like it or support it either). If you want a Government to be less meddling in your lives then vote for a change in Government.

The good old kiwi way of life has been socially engineered (and immigrated) out of existence.

[ElCoyote]

I think some of you are really missing the point...

The idea is that radar detectors would no longer be able to be used because such use shows a clear intention to speed when they are trying to get people to slow down.

Indeed they are and it will alter the road toll not one iota and in fact it may increase with more vehicles to a given area blindly following the leader.

Countries that alllow "water to find it's own level" have significantly fewer fatalities than New Zealand ever will.


CAUTION IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR SKILL

[xgnr]

This government is determined to get voted out