250cc law change?

[Coyote]

250 2-stroke (with the perfromance of a 400......)

So the 250 2 strokes have the same power as the 400s? Are the 250s slower than I thought or the 400s faster than I thought.

[ResidentAngel]

Don't some countries work on a horse power rating? When I was first getting my licence I heard a few learned bikers raving on about how a much better way would be to limit the horse power to put less experienced riders on a bike but now allow them the power of 250cc to go kill themselves. Cos you can still get up to the same massive speeds on some of the modern 250s. I don't know the truth of it. What do you guys think about that?

I understand that Queensland, AU allows any bike under about 30bhp, so a learner is allowed to ride a gutless 29hp 800cc Harley. I think provided the bike isnt just plain too heavy, a horsepower rating is sensible, cause too much acceleration is generally what gets lil baby bikers into trouble.

I suspect that here might be a move to adopt the Australian regs, and move to hp ratings instead of cc restrictions. All the early work on motorcycle accidents only looked at engine size, rather than power ratings, and perhaps the bureaucrats have finally wised up?

[Coyote]

At the same time we allow pimply faced youths to drive Evo's and WRX and all manner of other 4 wheeled rocket ships while on their restricted licences.

Hear hear. We get a lot of those guys from my school on the road that’s beside our college at lunchtime doing half assed burnouts and all of them think they're the dog’s bollocks. Most of them haven't even had a car for a year but they still have cars that would rival the Hayabusa. And, where the hell do these guys get the money cause most of them are too thick to get a high paying job at their age.

Once I get my 250, I'm going to roll over to them and say to them '4 wheels, phff, your over compensating mate' and speed off.

1.3 litre Laser

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[Storm]

Good on ya mate

[Mr Skid]

Once I get my 250, I'm going to roll over to them and say to them '4 wheels, phff, your over compensating mate' and speed off.

You've got the KX80 in motard trim right?
What about riding up the bonnet and down over the boot spoiler on their cars to prove your superiority?

[Two Smoker]

Hear hear. We get a lot of those guys from my school on the road that’s beside our college at lunchtime doing half assed burnouts and all of them think they're the dog’s bollocks. Most of them haven't even had a car for a year but they still have cars that would rival the Hayabusa. And, where the hell do these guys get the money cause most of them are too thick to get a high paying job at their age.

Once I get my 250, I'm going to roll over to them and say to them '4 wheels, phff, your over compensating mate' and speed off.

Legend mate..... But i think their cars would more rival 400's rather than Hayabusa's

[Coyote]

I take metalwork at school, and I was thinking about making a wheelie bar that I could put on whatever 250 I get. I would love to see their faces when I take them on.

[Coyote]

Had an even better idea! Make a cow-catcher!

[tassle]

I doubt very much that it would be lowered, but rather rasie the cc rating...... I think this is a stupid idea if it involves a lerners licence..... Learners should be restricted to 250cc, and possibly raise the cc bar too 400cc..... Because in theory you can do your learner and restricted and then jump onto a 1000cc rocket as soon as you get your full (fucking stupid if you ask me) it should be more gradual, 250cc and under for Learners, and 400cc and under for restricted riders.... therefore the rider gets used to playing with a bit of power before jumping onto a 600+cc bike.....

I just got my licence finally, and I just got a little V-max,are they going to change it as in Aus where it goes on age and hp of the bike , and who the hell came up with the bright idea of limiting learners to 70km/h, you try that game with open road trucks. ps my drz400 is more of a hoot to ride in town it wheelies oh so easy, it still comes down to how much control you have with the right hand, if someone is a dumbass, then they are still a danger on nifty-fifty.

[Coyote]

You've got the KX80 in motard trim right?
What about riding up the bonnet and down over the boot spoiler on their cars to prove your superiority?

What a brilliant idea. You could even do a burnout on the front windscreen.

[Two Smoker]

I just got my licence finally, and I just got a little V-max,are they going to change it as in Aus where it goes on age and hp of the bike , and who the hell came up with the bright idea of limiting learners to 70km/h, you try that game with open road trucks. ps my drz400 is more of a hoot to ride in town it wheelies oh so easy, it still comes down to how much control you have with the right hand, if someone is a dumbass, then they are still a danger on nifty-fifty.

Yep if someone is a dumbass then they will fall off and not ride again, or natural selection will occur....

DRZ400, is going going to be fun alright and wheelie well, but will it do 230kmh like a road going 400??? or 205kmh like a 250 two stroke, most road bikes will do 180kmh and i think that is what has to be taken into account.... But the biggest factor is acceleration, a 250 two stroke or 400 will hit 100kmh in about 5 seconds (similar performance to a evo)

Anyway, ive lost myself completely....

Congrats on the licence

[SPORK]

What a brilliant idea. You could even do a burnout on the front windscreen.

You've got class

I hate the wanker with the big Holden logo over his bonnet... I want to put Sellys poly Filler in his bog bore exhaust

[Coyote]

You've got class

I hate the wanker with the big Holden logo over his bonnet... I want to put Sellys poly Filler in his bog bore exhaust

Or better still, put a Ford logo on it

[ajturbo]

... it still comes down to how much control you have with the right hand, if someone is a dumbass, then they are still a danger on nifty-fifty.[/QUOTE]

i agree here!!! i know someone personaly that was booked ( and i think he lost his licence over it ..) for trying to get a way from a cop (car) on a honda(?) 50!!! hey Gav, tell us the story!!!

[rodgerd]

Well there are not many 250cc models being produced around the world and sold in NZ. at the moment there is the Suzuki GN250, GSX250 and ?did i miss one?

in 5 years time what will the market for learners bikes be if we kept the 250cc rule?

I think you'll find imports/second hand market are the problem there. There are *heaps* of 250s in Japan, but I think so many people want cheap second-hand 250s that they junk as soon as they get a full license. I can't imagine the bike shops make enough money out of 250s for it to be worth habving a big range here.