250cc law change?

[rodgerd]

A prime example why the 250 rule is so stupid is the Aprilia RS250. Very nice bike but very powerful. I could just see a kid who has just turned 15, knows nothing about bikes but wants one to look cool, getting their licence and then getting their rich banker/property developer/pilot father to buy them a RS250, and getting themselves killed.

The law can only go so far to protect people from themselves. Put in a HP restriction and what's to stop people popping restrictor plates in for a WOF and taking them out to ride?

[rodgerd]

And, where the hell do these guys get the money cause most of them are too thick to get a high paying job at their age.

Finance. It's all on the never-never; have a look around at the car dealers offering $1 down.

[Bonez]

I think you'll find imports/second hand market are the problem there. There are *heaps* of 250s in Japan, but I think so many people want cheap second-hand 250s that they junk as soon as they get a full license.

Goody, more abondoned toys to play with

[James Deuce]

I think a power to weight ratio system like NSW in Australia has would be the go.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...iceriders.html

Bloody sensible list and it means the larger amongst us, and the human race is slowly getting bigger, don;t have to do a pretzel imitation during their learner phase.

Yes, some bikes could be derestricted ahead of time, but I reckon the increase in electronics on new bikes means it could be restriced via a tamper "proof" ignition/FI module. Cop hops out, plugs USB cable into interface, "Very good sir/madam. The bike meets your license restrictions", or "Here's your $400 ticket, you knob".

[Coyote]

I think a power to weight ratio system like NSW in Australia has...

Hasn't the lastest R1 got a power to weight ratio of 1:1?

[bevsta]

I guess in the long run the laws are there to protect you, but if you're taking up a sport/hobby such as motorcycling you've gotta acknowledge the risk. I've only had my GN250 for 10 months and already heaps of people have said to me "that's the best way to get yourself killed." I know I'm still only learning and wouldn't want a bigger bike yet until I know I can handle it. It is all the more incentive to get out there and do more hours, build up the experience and build into a bigger bike. Bit of self responsibility given that it is your life flying along a couple of feet off the ground.

[James Deuce]

Hasn't the lastest R1 got a power to weight ratio of 1:1?

They'd have you believe that, those dastardly manufacturers, but add rider, fuel, coolant, brake fluid, oil, and a greasy breakfast, and you've got significantly less than that. Still "enough" power to to turn you in some scavengers greasy breakfast though.

Claimed weight is usually done with no fuel or coolant, and I've seen heaps of bike mags turn claimed wet weight 170kg bikes in 200kg ready to roll sans rider. Stay alert to hype.

[SPORK]

already heaps of people have said to me "that's the best way to get yourself killed."

Yep, no cage owner wants to see you on a bike, dirt or road. Jealousy, I think

[Antallica]

Yeah the HP's should be restricted, I can just imagine a recently licensed learner taking out a loan and getting a Apr RS250.

But hey, I thought the amount of people getting into bikes in this country is seriously low anyway. What with the boy racer generation with their done up Honda's, & rims worth more than the car itself doing 'the laps' in town.

[The Pastor]

I guess in the long run the laws are there to protect you, but if you're taking up a sport/hobby such as motorcycling you've gotta acknowledge the risk. I've only had my GN250 for 10 months and already heaps of people have said to me "that's the best way to get yourself killed." I know I'm still only learning and wouldn't want a bigger bike yet until I know I can handle it. It is all the more incentive to get out there and do more hours, build up the experience and build into a bigger bike. Bit of self responsibility given that it is your life flying along a couple of feet off the ground.

You can just say well i wont be going fast enough to hurt myself

[Magua]

You can just say well i wont be going fast enough to hurt myself

Atleast he's got a bike, anyway I'd take a Gn250 over my bomb of a FZR anyday.

[Antallica]

Yeah what they fail to realise is, is that they are actually the danger to you and your motorcycle. Not you to anyone else (well I hope anyway).

The amount of really really really and I mean really dangerous driving I experienced on the way back home was shocking. I'll excuse the poor little granny overtaking a truck on a no pass hill with about 4 cars including me coming down the hill.

Will be interesting to see if this law is changed anyway, I'll stick to this lovely GSF for a year or so more yet 40-45ish HP 'aint so bad at all.

[SPORK]

Magua, I had a dream last night, and your bike was in it It was just sitting on the side of the road... I need to see a doctor

[Blakamin]

Atleast he's got a bike, anyway I'd take a Gn250 over my bomb of a FZR anyday.

And you should see him on that GN...FARQ... they arent meant to do that!

[James Deuce]

Yeah what they fail to realise is, is that they are actually the danger to you and your motorcycle. Not you to anyone else (well I hope anyway).

The amount of really really really and I mean really dangerous driving I experienced on the way back home was shocking. I'll excuse the poor little granny overtaking a truck on a no pass hill with about 4 cars including me coming down the hill.

Will be interesting to see if this law is changed anyway, I'll stick to this lovely GSF for a year or so more yet 40-45ish HP 'aint so bad at all.

Nice score - I missed this one over the weekend - is this the one Frosty jacked up??