Penalised for trying to help

[Grahameeboy]

On duel carrigeway... YES



I dont make the road code up man!

But not Motorways? The Road Code mentions zilch about this.

[Grahameeboy]

Yes. As below, and when the vehicle in front of you has indicated a right turn.



I challenge you to a duel!

Right turning vehicle is obvious one....see above.

[James Deuce]

But not Motorways? The Road Code mentions zilch about this.

It's legal to pass on the left on a motorway, because each lane on a motorway is treated as a highway in its own right. This is why lane splitting is legal if the overtake is conducted in the same lane you started in.

I prefer the UK's approach but there aren't enough HP patrols to dish out the 250,000 tickets or so a day required to modify this particular behaviour.

[sAsLEX]

I prefer the UK's approach but there aren't enough HP patrols to dish out the 250,000 tickets or so a day required to modify this particular behaviour.

Well the correct approach would be driver training and maybe an add campaign........ but ticket the fuck out of everyone!

[Grahameeboy]

It's legal to pass on the left on a motorway, because each lane on a motorway is treated as a highway in its own right. This is why lane splitting is legal if the overtake is conducted in the same lane you started in.

I prefer the UK's approach but there aren't enough HP patrols to dish out the 250,000 tickets or so a day required to modify this particular behaviour.

But where does it say that? I have not been able to find anything on this.

[Ixion]

There is nothing special about a motorway. It is just a multilane road. here is the law:

2.8Passing on left

(1)A driver must not pass or attempt to pass on the left of another vehicle moving in the same direction except in accordance with this clause.
(2)In any case in which the movement referred to subclause (1) may be made,—
.........(a)the 2 vehicles must be in different lanes; or
.........(b)the overtaken vehicle must be stationary or its driver must have given or be giving the prescribed signal of that driver's intention to turn right; or
.........(c)if the overtaken vehicle is a light rail vehicle moving in the same direction, the light rail vehicle must not be—
(i)signalling an intention to turn left or to stop; or
(ii)stationary for the purposes of allowing passengers to alight or board.
(3)If the roadway is marked in lanes, the driver may make the movement referred in subclause (1) only if the driver's vehicle does not encroach on a lane that is unavailable to a driver.

This is not Pomgolia. Our rules are different. They are better. Adapt.

[EZAS]

I found this in the road code, (Nothing about lane splitting on the left)
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...g/passing.html

there are two or more lanes on your side of the centre line and you are able to pass safely by using the left-hand lane

[EZAS]

I have a question.

On a three laned road like this

Can you overtake a car that is overtaking? ie can you use the further most lane to the right to overtake.

Senario, car in the left is going 50k in the 100, a car goes to overtake at 70k, so can I open the bike up and over take at 100k in the far right hand lane?

[Ixion]

Nope. Illegal

2.3Use of lanes
(1)A driver, when driving, must not use—

(a)a lane that has been declared unavailable by an overhead traffic signal showing a red diagonal cross; or

(b)on a two-way roadway marked in 2 or more lanes, a lane on the right side of the centre line unless the driver is passing another vehicle travelling in the same direction; or

(c)on a two-way roadway marked in 3 lanes,—
(i)the lane on the right side of the roadway; or
(ii)the centre lane unless the driver is turning right into another roadway or a vehicle entrance or is passing another vehicle travelling in the same direction; or

(d)a lane to the driver's right of a no-passing line; or

(e)the area on the right side of a row of traffic cones or other delineators placed so that they separate traffic travelling in opposite directions; or

(f)a special vehicle lane reserved for a specific class or classes of vehicle (unless driving a vehicle of the class or one of the classes for which the lane is reserved).

Oddly, there seems no prohibition about doing the same thing on a four laned road.

[Kendog]

so can I open the bike up and over take at 100k

That made me smile, open the 9 up to 100k

I have been thinking about the center line a bit since the last few group rides I have been on. I know I have been guilty of riding very near the line on right handers, but it was not till I saw it happening to a bike in front of me that I realised just how dangerous this habit is. From my experience I see two reasons for this:
1. I naturally ride on the right of my lane (about the right wheel line of a cage). So when a right hander comes along I tended to ride around the center line for almost the entire conner.
2. When I look for the exit on right handers, I can see across the other side of the road, so I am now looking through the wrong side of the road and the bike heads where you are looking i.e to the center line.

So I have been trying the following to adjust for the above:
1. When approaching a right hander move to the left of the lane, this gives more visibility round the corner and more room to make the turn.
2. Treat the center line as the vanishing point of the corner, while it is great I can see all the way to the exit this should be used to check the road surface, oncoming traffic etc. By focusing on my lane only I can make sure the line my bike takes is always well withing the center line.

[Swoop]

& your problem is

The level of driver education (not simply learning enough to scrape through the test) in this Banana Republic of ours.

Refer to sAsLEX's post above...

[scumdog]

So I have been trying the following to adjust for the above:
1. When approaching a right hander move to the left of the lane, this gives more visibility round the corner and more room to make the turn.
2. Treat the center line as the vanishing point of the corner, while it is great I can see all the way to the exit this should be used to check the road surface, oncoming traffic etc. By focusing on my lane only I can make sure the line my bike takes is always well withing the center line.

Been doing this for years - never knew any different.

I use the 'fog-line' as the vanishing point on left handers too.

[scracha]

I prefer the UK's approach but there aren't enough HP patrols to dish out the 250,000 tickets or so a day required to modify this particular behaviour.

In Pomgolia (tm) they have number plate reading cameras that do all the dirty work for the filthy HP driving few.


* Pomgolia and other nationalistic kiwi-isms are registered trademarks of Ixion.

[P38]

I have a question.

On a three laned road like this

Can you overtake a car that is overtaking? ie can you use the further most lane to the right to overtake.

Senario, car in the left is going 50k in the 100, a car goes to overtake at 70k, so can I open the bike up and over take at 100k in the far right hand lane?

LOL only if your in second gear, otherwise your gonna have to slow down to 100k