Evil Forces are Gathering

[Paul in NZ]

sigh

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3085560a11,00.html

Bloody boy racers ruining it for the rest of us (ah hem)

Paul N

[SPORK]

Bloody boy racers ruining it for the rest of us (ah hem)

Yep... It is about time that someone gets into the beehive from this site and lays the smack down. The rules are heavily leaned towards cages, so why not have a good guy in the hornets nest?

PS, by Forces of Evil, I though you were talking about Bush 'winning' the elections again :eyepoke: :sly: (all the slightly relavent ones in the box I could find

[manuboy]

Paul, its Par For The Course man.

You're looking at one issue here (and one i agree with you on), but basically the phrase "they're gonna ruin it for us all" just sums up the flowon effect that you get from the fact we are all governed by laws.

Many people. One Law. Greatest good and all that.

I agree that the concept that one group can induce changes to a law or policy that results in another group suffering SUCKS, but is there another solution? You'd have to change one of the pillars of our society yeah? The only choice you have in practical terms as far as i can see, is to stop the law from being created (i don't know what that involves), or you don't adhere to it.

I have a Yoshi exhaust. If they make it unlawful to have that, i don't know what i'll do yet. It doesn't annoy anybody. as far as i know.

I KNOW i won't remove it. So i may just ride without a warrant (may as well flick the rego as well!).. i dunno yet. I'll wait till it happens. I know i'd prefer to obey the laws they make, however misguided or irrelevant... but in this case..... hmmmmmmm....

[Hitcher]

Boy racers. Noisy exhausts. Automatic transmissions.

I just don't get it. A noise-liberating exhaust system that makes your car or bike sound good is at its best when you can really make the engine sing i.e. at the higher end of the rev range. Why then put such a thing on an auto, where the transmission never lets you wind the engine out? Or where it changes up and down constantly under load/no load, making an exhaust-modified vehicle moo like a lovelorn yak rather than howl like a cut banshee?

It's obviously a small penis thing.

[vifferman]

I have a Yoshi exhaust. If they make it unlawful to have that, i don't know what i'll do yet. It doesn't annoy anybody. as far as i know.

Easy. Just get a 'spud' made up to quieten it for the WOF testing. If it's objective, then it's easy. Quieten it down sufficiently to pass the NoiseOMeter test, then whip it out again. It's the subjective testing that makes it harder, as you get crazy stuff like some power-crazed, bureaucratic ex-mechanic arbitrarily failing you for an unquantifiable "it's too loud".

The GoKart just failed its WOF, becuase being an import from that backwoods UK place, it has some corrosion of the brake pipes and fuel pipes on its underbelly. The mechanic, when quizzed, admitted it was 'discretionary', due to the interpretation of whether the degree of corrosion made it potentially unsafe or not. Fair enough, Better Safe Than Sorry, Peas in a Pod Gather a Rolling Stone, and all that.
So, because said mechanic wasn't "equipped to do the work here", I went Elsewhere. The car is still Elsewhere, having been there all day yesterday, and having had nearly all the brake pipe lines replaced (including the ones the mechanic didn't mark with his big yellow crayon), the fuel lines removed and (hopefully) refabricated and replaced (if they can get their Pipe Bender Thingo to work proper), the gas tank taken out and replaced, the wheels taken off, the zorst pipe cut off and rewelded (hopefully), the lined bled and then re-bled after I noted the front pipes were corroded more worserer than the ones yellow-crayoned and insisted they replace those too....
Hopefully, I'll get it back today, after I empty my wallet into their coffers...
Then I can ride my bike again, instead of the UsedJapHeap'O'Shit I've got as a loaner car (grudging apologies to anyone who has a Toymotor Sillycar and actually likes it...)

[vifferman]

Boy racers. Noisy exhausts. Automatic transmissions.
I just don't get it.

Me neither, Mr Hitcher.
Shall we saddle the hobbyhorses?

[Paul in NZ]

Me neither, Mr Hitcher.
Shall we saddle the hobbyhorses?

nah! Not yet. Wait until I get all the windmills set up and the tilting sticks out of the cupboard.

[Blakamin]

I wish you guys could be here at 10am when our resident muppet goes to smoko in his primera... stock cept zorst, subbies, racing seats and a bit of mesh he found on the side of the road and put over his grill.
oh...and cheap mags and the mandatory loss of suspension
It sounds remarkably like a big 2 stroke (or a wet fart)

Was funny when he thought he could drive off "real fast" and hit a wall before getting out of the car park! (was funnier coz he was bragging about this move 1 minute before and there was 20 people watching)

might have to take photos tomorrow!

[rodgerd]

sigh

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3085560a11,00.html

Bloody boy racers ruining it for the rest of us (ah hem)

Be fair, it's not just the boy racers. What about the Twats on Harleys.

Granted, it's safer to give a boy racer a swift kick up the arse than one of those straight-pipe Harley riders with a pretty picture on his jacket...

[James Deuce]

I've just prepared my self for this.

I managed to score some standard TRX mufflers, with nice gold coloured covers of trade me for $75.

They'll go on for warrants and then the other standard TRX mufflers will go back on. The chrome ones that seem to weigh a little less than the "new" standard ones that is.

[manuboy]

I wish you guys could be here at 10am when our resident muppet goes to smoko in his primera... stock cept zorst, subbies, racing seats and a bit of mesh he found on the side of the road and put over his grill.
oh...and cheap mags and the mandatory loss of suspension
It sounds remarkably like a big 2 stroke (or a wet fart)

Was funny when he thought he could drive off "real fast" and hit a wall before getting out of the car park! (was funnier coz he was bragging about this move 1 minute before and there was 20 people watching)

might have to take photos tomorrow!

There's a guy (don't know him personally) who works out at Air New Zealand maintenance - he has a primer grey 1990 Ford TELSTAR (!!!!) stock standard, except for an "airfoil" he made in his own time in the carbon fibre shop.

The top of the foil is just below his roof line as far as i can remember. The guys tried to tell him it would have no effect unless he was doin 230km/h plus..which was slightly beyond what the telstar would achieve (unless it was falling off a cliff). Well.. it did have an effect, everybody thought he was a complete cock.

But anyway... to tie in with the thread, he had a stock exhuast...

[Blakamin]

Be fair, it's not just the boy racers. What about the Twats on Harleys.

Dunno about you, but i'd be lucky to see 2 H-D's a day... cant even count the boy racers that go passed here.... would have to be a couple of hundred

[HanaBelle]

Paul, its Par For The Course man.

Many people. One Law. Greatest good and all that.

....

The thing is, its the Greatest Good for the Greatest Number [AND the Stoopidist Common Denominator], so the thing to do is get more smart intelligent and on to it bikers on the road. Outnumber the cages, or at least swamp your friendly politicans with letters of complaint quoting relative energy use, road user expenses (less weight, less tarmac wear)...and overall smarter and smaller environmental footprint...add to that raising their awareness of the social capital gains of being a biker - ie improved sense of local body responsibility (know the roads and pay attention to the road surface), awareness of other human beings in your social "road", risk and cautionary assessment skills, and the patented Kiwibiker Superior Responsibility Taking...

hmm, this is getting to be fun..what are other motorbike skills translated to social zen positives and included in letters to politicans? How about: we contribute to raising the country's knowledge economy innovation skills when we extrapolate the motorbike skill of knowing when to NOT sit in a line of baaing sheep traffic...

A friend of mine is standing for goobermint, I will formally harass him endlessly on behalf of motorbikes from now on and abandon all other social issues forthwith. Prolly improve our relationship, come to think on it.

[Edit Addition: This is not about exhausts so I apologise and will try transferring it to another thread...unless someone else can?]

HanaBanana

[Coldkiwi]

ahh yes, the great muddying of the waters on exhaust noise is here again.

From the stuff article:
"An Australian study into the cost of traffic noise on the community – completed when Australia was amending its vehicle-noise legislation – estimated a mid-term benefit of tougher noise levels would be worth $A2 billion"

has anyone thought to mention that the Aussie study took into account tyre noise as well? Forget the exhausts, if you want to make the motorway quieter, look at the tyres and make transit put some decent bloody seal down!! Cheap buggers never put down the good stuff.

I think this Kissling bloke is on the right track to be honest. If there's an objective goal post of so many dB(A) then at least people can design and test for it without wasting their cash. Mind you, from the other noise legislation I've seen proposed in this country (anyone else see the BIA review on apartment noise?? They're as stupid as the LTSA) any objective limits will be way too low anyway (just like the police guidelines out at the moment that would fail even stock vehicles)

I still hold out hope that one day, society might actually get some vague form of a clue about acoustics... but i doubt it.

[riffer]

They'll go on for warrants and then the other standard TRX mufflers will go back on. The chrome ones that seem to weigh a little less than the "new" standard ones that is.

Heavy stuff, those nasty baffles... weigh the bike down and reduce performance.

Good score on the new mufflers. Lucky someone was bored and trawling the net that day, I reckon.