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    Yep, as above. The bike's suspension tensioned against a pair of tie-downs on the bars or upper trippleclamps has never let me down. My only issue is sometimes the guy next door, if his bike's in the process of being tied down in a way that puts mine at risk I'll offer to help.
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    i find it difficult to beleive that tie downs could break your handlebars.You dont put that much tension on them.If like some BMWs your sidestand retracts as soon as the weight comes of it i might enlist the help of someone else to either tighten the straps whilst you hold the bike or visa versa

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    I havnt heard of it happening in NZ , but the european sites all mention it happening. I know that some of their ferry trips can be very rough. They say that it can happen when the ship rises then drops and a sudden force is put onto the handle bars.
    My problem is that on this bike, because of the fairing , there are not may places you can attach a tie down too.
    The pannier rack is plastic, and most of the frame is inside the fairing .
    I guess my main concern is which if any stand to use ? Im not very comfortable with the idea of no stand, just the tie downs

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwolf View Post
    I guess my main concern is which if any stand to use ? Im not very comfortable with the idea of no stand, just the tie downs
    Dirt bikes have been tied to trailers that way for yonks, and a trailer leaps about far more than a ferry. At least they do in NZ.

    Honestly, dude, tiedowns are rated at a couple of ton each, if your bike's trying to escape that hard what's either stand going to do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by werwolf View Post
    BMW warn against tying to handle bars, They are cast aluminium and Im told some have cracked in rough seas ??
    I can get good tying points on the front forks and at the back I can access directly onto the frame, Im just not sure about this side stand thing, The bike weighs 250kg +
    Anyone with a big BMW done this ???
    I could sure use the advice
    Well, you got me looking, and while I ride with several GS's regularly and I've never seen this done, it's the way BMW recommend it's done.

    http://www.ascycles.com/pdf/Tiedown2.pdf

    I don't see a problem with that, as long as the tiedowns are spread sideways far enough, as shown. The fron suspension isn't compressed this way, but that's neither here nor there as long as the tiedowns are good and snug. And I still wouldn't put the stand down.
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    LOL. Thanks Ocean, thats a pdf I hadnt seen but it makes it very clear. The tie down points they use are the ones I had thought would work. I will put my reservations aside and do as suggested . I will not use either stand.
    Thanks guys, This has been so helpful.
    I guess it shows how well this site can work .
    Merry Xmas everyone. Safe riding . :

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwolf View Post
    LOL. Thanks Ocean, thats a pdf I hadnt seen but it makes it very clear. The tie down points they use are the ones I had thought would work. I will put my reservations aside and do as suggested . I will not use either stand.
    Thanks guys, This has been so helpful.
    I guess it shows how well this site can work .
    Merry Xmas everyone. Safe riding . :
    don't use your side stand other than to help you tie your bike down, then put it up that way it wont break in the rough, & don't leave it in gear, coz if it starts to move forward & back it can start causing a lip in the bore, on folks to tie down as per Ocean's pdf
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    My mate suggested I use a velcro strap to put the front brake on ? does this seem a good idea ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwolf View Post
    My mate suggested I use a velcro strap to put the front brake on ? does this seem a good idea ?
    you don't need to put ya front brake on as it's up against the bulk head so it can't go any where & if it's out on the deck you have chocks
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    Quote Originally Posted by werwolf View Post
    My mate suggested I use a velcro strap to put the front brake on ? does this seem a good idea ?
    Nah, like Shrek says the tiedowns are angled forward to pull the bike down and forward against the bulkhead, it can't go anywhere and I don't much like the idea of leaving the brake system pressured up like that. Must admit I don't like the rubber chocks they supply, the deck's often wet and then the chocks don't grip too well. If that's all that's on offer I've tied the rear wheel back to something to balance the fwd pull of the front tiedowns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Shrek_ View Post
    you don't need to put ya front brake on as it's up against the bulk head so it can't go any where & if it's out on the deck you have chocks
    Mmmmm....
    Chocs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by werwolf View Post
    My mate suggested I use a velcro strap to put the front brake on ? does this seem a good idea ?
    That'd work. I used duct tape, it helps to have a knife handy at the end of the crossing. With the bike in gear and the front brake on the wheels are more reliably locked than with chocks. But I use them too, it can't hurt. On my favourite ferry the bike is not against the bulkhead but is tied down to four Ds on the deck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Mmmmm.... Chocs....
    mmmmmmm those tooooou
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    I don't much like the idea of leaving the brake system pressured up like that.
    I have a "GripLock" that does that every time I put it on. Doesn't seem to have caused any grief with the brake system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    I have a "GripLock" that does that every time I put it on. Doesn't seem to have caused any grief with the brake system.
    And it shouldn't, nonethless I've seen master cylinders leak under prolonged pressure.
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