Street racing; making up rules as they go..??..

[feral1]

PORT NELSON street meet.

I hear from a mate competing that they have ousted SV650's out of the Formula Three in nelson street meet.
WTF; what is going on? Are we making up rules as we go along??

This is just from a couple of texts i recieved today from a mate. but it appears they have said that there should be no water cooled V-twins over 600cc. Some BEARS rules they are running. But hang-on.. This is F3 right..??..

Now, I've got all the respect in the world for club's to run its own regulations. But this choppin and changing of rules is not helpful.

Appearantly other Jappa F3 bikes are running. But no SV's they've been told. My mate said some guy was justifiably upset, had a stern word to the officials. Upon this heated argument he had his entry form torn up and told to: 'feck off then'.
How would you feel if you made the effort to go up only to have this pulled.

Can someone shed light on this? Truth in this?
I hope not. Hope it was just my mate pulling my leg. If not, it would be a sad indicement and hopefully not tarnish an otherwise excellent meeting.

Feral

[Rashika]

well it certainly sounds like things haven't changed for Port Nelson racing this year then... fkn glad I didn't waste my time going this year.
Wonder if TonyB will be affected on his Monster? Guess we will see after racing today.
Feel bad for your mate tho Feral, that would piss me off completely!

I dont recall that they were running a separate Protwins class either, were they? If they did then I guess it would be a fair call.

[dangerous]

so, its starting out as a big a shambles as last year... bugger, I hope the safty concerns from last year dont return.
We need street racing to stay in NZ, but I dont like the chances.

[skidMark]

well thats silly they can change the rules....but a bit of prior notice would have been fair ....if it's true

[Kickaha]

what is going on? Are we making up rules as we go along??

Wanganui did,http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ad.php?t=63781 maybe there's a trend developing

If this is the case they need to be writing to both MNZ and the organisers asking for an explanation, they need to make sure nothing was published in the supplementary regulations as well


Oh yeah, Greymouth is still the best organised street race I have ever competed at

[feral1]

Yeah, it woul be weird to just chop and change the rules like that.

However, the above snippet of info about 650's being excluded was just a something a friend who is competing mentioned.

Can a competitor or someone who was at sign-in, riders briefing and the actual F3 racing confirm??

[sunhuntin]

if they keep doing shit like this, then street racing wont last much longer. i hate that they keep changing the rules at the last minute.
those riders that get affected, whether its by grid position, or not being allowed to race at all, should get their entry fees back.

[nsrpaul]

yes, sv 650s were not allowed in f3 at the port, i questioned the organisers on this one several days ago and they would not enter into a debate on this mater
it was due to the chairmans interpretation of the rules in the current mnz rulebook, when i pointed out the flaws, ie that he hadn't read the whole page, the reason was to even up the class

overall the meeting was better than last year mind, but f2 and f3 only got two races again due to the road surface braking up, one could theorise that this was due to the pace car, opps im sorry, changed to safety car to wsolve last years concerns hussing it up all over the show

this really grates me, why the fuck do you need a pace car? if it is for track inspection, how much inspection is he doing when fanging it? and why two and sometimes 3 laps!!!!!!!!!!!
and why oh why do they not just get the marshalls to radio in the all clear like we used to, surely that would be quicker and safer

surely its not for the crowds, as they have just come to see a BIKE RACE, not a pussy ausie hep of shit, and surely not as none of the barriers etc are up to standard for a car based event, now that would put an end to street racing, a ford falcon taking out spectators at a bike race !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rashika]

overall the meeting was better than last year mind, but f2 and f3 only got two races again due to the road surface braking up, one could theorise that this was due to the pace car, opps im sorry, changed to safety car to solve last years concerns hussing it up all over the show

this really grates me, why the fuck do you need a pace car? if it is for track inspection, how much inspection is he doing when fanging it?

they need one so that it can try to run up my arse
...well at least thats what it tried to do last year, after a marshall let me out... (cos my bike wouldn't start at first so i missed the warmup lap)... and he came racing round like he was on fire, and damn near run me down. So obviously the bucket club letter to them meant shit all and they have changed nothing... I guess we prob wont be racing there again.
Roll on Greymouth

[nsrpaul]

and steve on the rgv was on a flyer

[dangerous]

yes, sv 650s were not allowed in f3 at the port,

overall the meeting was better than last year mind,

one could theorise that this was due to the pace car, opps im sorry, changed to safety car to wsolve last years concerns hussing it up all over the show

this really grates me, why the fuck do you need a pace car? if it is for track inspection, how much inspection is he doing when fanging it? and why two and sometimes 3 laps!!!!!!!!!!!
and why oh why do they not just get the marshalls to radio in the all clear like we used to, surely that would be quicker and safer

none of the barriers etc are up to standard for a car based event, now that would put an end to street racing, a ford falcon taking out spectators at a bike race !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man... Im not up with the SV650 thing so wont comment at this time.

The safety car is complete and utter crap, no other bike street race uses one that I know of.. and remember last year how Rashika had a near escape with being flattened by the fucking thing.

hell yeah any halfwit in a cage can lose it christ look at Roger Freth, Possum and the guy in Oz that wound up around a gum tree last year, fuck there pace car... all i can think of is the car is a sponsor.

Better than last year... not for us lot putting post classic with buckets would have made me wild as, na sorry unless I get a better feed back I wont be back... and you must remember I live for street racing.

[Taz]

Street racing sucks anyway. Much better at the track from a spectators point of view.

[sAsLEX]

Street racing sucks anyway. Much better at the track from a spectators point of view.

very debatable


look at the crowds at Wanganui and Paeroa and then look at the Nats turn out and tell which has more,

[dangerous]

Street racing sucks anyway. Much better at the track from a spectators point of view.

Ya joking right?
Mate duno what the street races are like were ever you are from, but down here they go off with the spectators in a big way.
a dear mesh fenc is all that seperates those watching and the riders... at a race track ya having to watch from a distance???

[TonyB]

I see the meeting was being bagged before it even got under way. From my point of view the meeting was very very well run. Scrutineering was VERY fast and efficient. The racing started early, non-injury accidents were dealt with very quickly, and until the afternoons carnage they were getting through the racing very quickly.

The SV650 thing- seems bloody odd that two street meetings have decided that SV650's aren't eligable. Surely its not numbers- I was allowed LATE entry to F2, F3 and BEARS on the same bike. Will be interesting to see if they are allowed at the Nationals- maybe these guys know something we don't...or maybe they are reading the rules wrong...

Safety Car- The way the safety car was used this year, there is no way it could have run any riders over. Unless of course it couldn't stop in time to avoid a fallen rider when it was following the race for the first half a lap. They absolutely would not allow riders out late.

One thing I simply can't understand though, is how the hell they are supposed to be checking the track for problems/debris when they are 'inspecting' the track by going at 10/10ths in a late model XR8.

It did seem to serve a purpose though- when the F1 boys had a crash at turn one, they were able to park it in plain sight to warn the riders that there was a problem when they finished the first lap...which was handy as everyone was waving a YELLOW flag, not a red one- well there was one, but the bloody flag fell off .

The thing is, I think the Safety car creates more dangers than it fixes. At the speed it is going, if the driver stuffed up it would take out a LOT of spectators. If the only reason a late rider can't take to the track late is because the Safety Car poses a danger, then maybe its not actually adding any value.