Proposed new speed limit

[mowgli]

We don't have an "opposition".

Well then how about the media (Close UP, 20/20, 60 Minutes)? Oh that's right aunty helen told them to play nice or she'd take away their toys. Perhaps you're right - we don't have an opposition and we should consider ourselves privileged that the govt provides us with roads at all!

[Fatjim]

One thing Ireally admire about the french are their farmers. Those lads forced through changes by doing all sorts of things in Paris to piss people off.

Also, you don't have to block both lanes on a motorway to basically bring it to a screaming halt. The average Kiwi driver will cause enough congestion because of their selfishness and aggresiveness.

But if we really want these things gone, then pissing enough people off enough times WILL get the message accross. It would be literally a miracle if it was done any other way within the next 5 years.

[Delphinus]

If you're going to do the WRB stretch at 70k you'd have to warn car drivers thats WHY you're doing only 70.
Plan a route, and then put up signs before the WRB's saying "Danger, blah blah recommended safe speed 50-70k"

[Deano]

Ahhh yes but the opposition love showing how the polys are mis-spending public money on fool hardy projects

Ahh, yes, but I ain't listening to any "opposition" party propaganda - I'm going off my own research and interpretations....WTF

[Deano]

If you're going to do the WRB stretch at 70k you'd have to warn car drivers thats WHY you're doing only 70.
Plan a route, and then put up signs before the WRB's saying "Danger, blah blah recommended safe speed 50-70k"

Throw some dismembered manicans in amongst the WRB at strategic locations as well.....graphic, but so are the drink driving/speed kills advertisements...

[Katman]

Lamp-posts, power poles and the like are avoidable, even if one runs off road one can aim to miss them.

They are certainly not avoidable if you're down and sliding towards them at high speed. How many farm fences or power poles have claimed lives compared to WRBs?

[Katman]

And btw, I realise now that the original post is just a suggestion to try to piss people off - I therefore retract my support.

[MaxB]

Me Aunt lives in Paihia. Can you make it up there on that 'sowellhung'?
She may take excpetion to you pushing her beloved grand out the window - even more so than the fact I'd be waiting on the ground floor, arms open & waiting for the inevitable!

Arf Arf. Maybe I should tell you where I got this from.

When I was a kid in the 70s they (ACC?) were going round with this machine that demonstrated why it was good to wear a seatbelt. It was an inclined track with a car seat attached to it and a railway buffer at the bottom. It looked like a slide with a seat on top.

They were handing out leaflets and the black and white picture on the front showed someone pushing a piano from an office building onto someone standing below. The tagline was something like: " Remember not wearing your seatbelt when crashing at 50km/h is like......"

I had a go on the machine set for 50km/h and fark what an impact. The PC brigade would not let kids anywhere near it these days but I came out in a seat belt line of bruises from my shoulder to my hips. Great days.

[howdamnhard]

AGREED

Anyway, about a speed of 70kms...I can't see that helping in any way, unless there is a prior warning of the reason we would be doing this.

I found it hard enough, not to mention dangerous, to stick to that speed during my learner's period.

Let's be honnest, that restriction would be potentially unsafe and pointless as a sole rider, and if done as a group, cage drivers around would just get pissed off and miss the point entirely.

Sorry, I don't see what good it could achieve.[/QUOTE]

[James Deuce]

Sorry, I don't see what good it could achieve.

You'll live if you fall off riding next to them. You'll be missing bits, but alive.

I thought that was good? No?

[howdamnhard]

Your just as likely not to live if you have your limbs severed off,which apparently hitting cheesecutters 70 km/hr will do.

You'll live if you fall off riding next to them. You'll be missing bits, but alive.

I thought that was good? No?

[James Deuce]

In light of the previous post, I move that we drop the speed limit around WRBs to a voluntary 50 km/hr.

[Wasp27]

Now we all acknowledge (red bling me if you don't) that the Wire rope barriers are excessively dangerous to motocyclists.

I propose a volentry speed limit on any road with a WRB of 70kph. This certainly comes under "ride to the conditions, if they change reduce your speed". Exceeding 70k greatly increases the likelyhood of a gory death in these areas.

Absolutely brilliant idea FJ......have to agree with MSTRS about the Pack thingy though.....just too dangerous when you consider how some hot headed Cage drivers react to slower motorists, cheers W

[Wasp27]

AGREED

Anyway, about a speed of 70kms...I can't see that helping in any way, unless there is a prior warning of the reason we would be doing this.

I found it hard enough, not to mention dangerous, to stick to that speed during my learner's period.

Let's be honnest, that restriction would be potentially unsafe and pointless as a sole rider, and if done as a group, cage drivers around would just get pissed off and miss the point entirely.

Sorry, I don't see what good it could achieve.

[/QUOTE]

Yeah...I agree, it's much better to do nothing. Just as a matter of interest....what colours the sky in your world

[Toaster]

Exceeding 70k greatly increases the likelyhood of a gory death in these areas.

You mean we have speed limits???!!!

I thought the lovely police were just extra-safety conscious and wanted to escort me home en-mass then provide me with a free weetbix meal and lodging for the night. They have such a pinache for minimalist decor! I am sure I saw the words AUTOBAHN near a BP and could do whatever speed I liked and to heck with the consequences.

But seriously... it's nice to hear an admission that increased speed increases risk to the rider. Simple physics.... it takes longer to stop and hurts more when you hit something.

Plently if RIP threads prove that point.