Motorcyclists Wanted - Queensland

[Kittyhawk]

Lol nice advert...although I think its aimed at the wrong audience. I think it should be aimed at the less experienced riders before upgrading bikes..Because yes when we are young and getting more powerful bikes we do consider ourselfs indestructible...at least once

There is more than bikers whom die on the roads...

Whats this about Queensland banning sportsbikes?

[Conquiztador]

Now THATS funny. Or perhaps my humour is warped. Could be as a result of brain damage...

Wonder what is driving this crowd? A bunch of mums who have lost their kids on bikes? Greenies? Church goers who hate the noise of bikes while praying? Jelousy as they can't afford a bike?

But more interesting, where does their $$'s come from??

[P38]

Yes deaths do strengthen their arguments but why the hell do they not advertise about the bloody morons who drive cars and cause deaths and usually to other innocent people? If a rider kills themselves that is thier problem if a car driver kills their passengers, other motorists or pedestrians it becomes other peoples problems.

It's simple really.

Their particular political intrest is to ban motorcycles from the roads.

Starting with Super/Sportbikes.

End of story.

[P38]

Whats this about Queensland banning sportsbikes?

Sport bikes are not banned in Queensland.... at least not yet.

However there is a lobby group based on the Gold Coast who's stated aim is to lobby the Queensland state government to ban these bikes from the road.

They are organised, reasourced and well versed in the power of the media.

There's probally a lobby group like this here in NZ too, just no so vocal .... YET!!!

There's Nutters like this everwhere.

The danger comes when they get their shit together and use the political process to advance their cause.

EG. who'd of thought a minior political party in NZ could get legislation passed to ban a smack?

Just the thin edge of the wedge, so brace yourselves.

[janno]

Sorry, but I think it's a great ad. In no way does it single out sportsbikes. It's no different than the drunk driving car ones - do you all hop up and down and cry foul and feel you are being picked on every time you see one of those?

And after having just left Brisbane mid last year after living there for three years, no there is not some big groundswell of support to have sportsbikes banned. Just because something is in the paper doesn't mean its true, kiddies.

The anti bike brigade over there hates all bikes, they don't single any one type out as all styles of motorcyclists are killing themselves in a spectacularly monotonous fashion, and something like 60 - 70% of fatalities are single vehicle accidents on a Sunday afternoon.

However the motorcycling fraternity over there is huge, quite well organised and more importantly has a lot of financial power. These are the guys who managed to get the anti lane splitting bill chucked out, remember. Could you imagine that happening here?

This ad is a good one, and quite frankley I would be happy to see it published in bike magazines. I'm sure we all know someone who fits the wanted ad requirements and maybe needs to be reminded of where they will end up.

[lealand]

Darwin Awards
Awards" have been given for people who "do a service to Humanity by removing themselves from the Gene pool", i.e., lose the ability to reproduce. It is for people who kill, or in rare cases, sterilize themselves accidentally by attempting to do stupid feats.

I would be keen to see the add go live on NZ TV my self

Michael, 27, was spending a pleasant afternoon cruising on his motorcycle. But witnesses who saw him speeding down Meridian Avenue were not surprised when state troopers reported that he had lost control near the Kapowsin Highway. You see, he was steering with his feet. Michael was killed instantly after being thrown from his motorcycle, which had veered to the right and hit a guardrail.

And these guys are here in good old NZ

[McJim]

Well it must be mis spelt - far more motorists kill themselves and others than motorcyclists do.

They're spending an awful lot of time conentrating on an awful small percentage of the road toll.

Fuckwits.

[Ocean1]

Sorry, but I think it's a great ad. In no way does it single out sportsbikes. It's no different than the drunk driving car ones - do you all hop up and down and cry foul and feel you are being picked on every time you see one of those?

Don't you have stuff to do in the kitchen dear?

It's a fine example of diversion of public budget for the specific use of the fetishist group of your choice.

It clearly implies all motorcyclists enjoy excessive speed, etc, etc.

Personally I chose not to take a fence. But it is odious, and an offence against the intelligence.

[janno]

Don't you have stuff to do in the kitchen dear?

It's a fine example of diversion of public budget for the specific use of the fetishist group of your choice.

It clearly implies all motorcyclists enjoy excessive speed, etc, etc.

Personally I chose not to take a fence. But it is odious, and an offence against the intelligence.

so a "don't drink and drive" ad clearly implies that ALL car drivers drink and drive??

PS when I come and see you I expect you to put up yer dukes, ya big girl.

[RDJ]

These are the same people who are lobbying for a ban on sportbikes from Queensland roads. Every death just strengthens their argument.

With respect, it doesn't. It may make the argument superficially and temporarily more believable to the underinformed and the uncritical, but as has been said very many times before here and elsewhere - if somebody does something exceptionally risky or just has plain bad luck, and dies, it doesn't mean that everybody else who engages in same activity has to be protected from death by eliminating the activity. See for example rugby, mountaineering, skydiving, taking a bath, carrying out home handyman work, painting the roof, arguing with a man with a gun, arguing with a woman with a gun, testfiring an "unloaded" gun while pointing it at yourself, driving a car, getting married, getting divorced, staying single, having a de facto relationship, skateboarding, being a pedestrian, climbing stairs, descending stairs, jumping, running, walking, cycling, sauntering, ambling.... and so forth.

Just, y'know, sayin'.

[Taz]

A good way to get the message across.

[Kittyhawk]

Sport bikes are not banned in Queensland.... at least not yet.

However there is a lobby group based on the Gold Coast who's stated aim is to lobby the Queensland state government to ban these bikes from the road.

They are organised, reasourced and well versed in the power of the media.

There's probally a lobby group like this here in NZ too, just no so vocal .... YET!!!

There's Nutters like this everwhere.

The danger comes when they get their shit together and use the political process to advance their cause.

EG. who'd of thought a minior political party in NZ could get legislation passed to ban a smack?

Just the thin edge of the wedge, so brace yourselves.

What if you are traveling interstate? Are you saying that you have to get off your bike as you enter Queensland, travel through using alternative methods of transport then once you have passed through get back on ya bike??

If they ban them in one place they would have to do it in all states correct?

[Ocean1]

so a "don't drink and drive" ad clearly implies that ALL car drivers drink and drive??

PS when I come and see you I expect you to put up yer dukes, ya big girl.

Not usually. But at face value the criticism of the ad in question remains valid.

In fact I find ALL ads a crashing bore, an unwanted intrusion, but an ad which attempts to censured a minority group because of a tenuous link between that group and a completely unrelated behaviour is political manipulation, pure and simple.

Put up me dukes? I'll buy off any honour-debt with a curry eh? P'raps a nice drop of wine...




Crate of Shepards Ridge?

[Mixdup]

How bad this ad is depends on where it is placed. Inside a bike mag I'd have no issue, anywhere more "public" and I would be furious. Why? Because the ad says "motorcyclists wanted" not "Reckless motorcyclists wanted". In a bike mag ever viewer is a biker and knows what the ad is about, namely - think carefully about your behaviour if you fit this criteria. Published to a non-bike audience the ad implies that the criteria are "standard issue" for motorcyclists.

As bikers we can sit in here and analyse this ad all we like, but in reality, we need to look at how this ad is percieved by non-bikers. I work in media/comms/PR and can tell you that unless the people who designed the ad were really dumb, they knew that it would have the effect of helping the general public associate motorcyles with danger and recklessness.

MANY on this forum, myself included, are less than thrilled by some of the excessive behaviour on bikes and believe as bikers we have some role to play in encouraging safe (if not always 'legal') bike use. BUT, ALL of us I'm sure do not want to see so-called "biker eductaion" campaigns manipulated to become alarmist, anti-bike propaganda.

Cheers

[bell]

How bad this ad is depends on where it is placed. Inside a bike mag I'd have no issue, anywhere more "public" and I would be furious. Why? Because the ad says "motorcyclists wanted" not "Reckless motorcyclists wanted". In a bike mag ever viewer is a biker and knows what the ad is about, namely - think carefully about your behaviour if you fit this criteria. Published to a non-bike audience the ad implies that the criteria are "standard issue" for motorcyclists.

As bikers we can sit in here and analyse this ad all we like, but in reality, we need to look at how this ad is percieved by non-bikers. I work in media/comms/PR and can tell you that unless the people who designed the ad were really dumb, they knew that it would have the effect of helping the general public associate motorcyles with danger and recklessness.

MANY on this forum, myself included, are less than thrilled by some of the excessive behaviour on bikes and believe as bikers we have some role to play in encouraging safe (if not always 'legal') bike use. BUT, ALL of us I'm sure do not want to see so-called "biker eductaion" campaigns manipulated to become alarmist, anti-bike propaganda.

Cheers

Absolutely spot on. These articles were poached from another forum. They highlight a few points quite well:
* we'll always have individuals on bikes amongst us who don't have the skills to continue their risk-taking behaviour, and
* the media will always be up for a bit of alarmist propaganda; believe what you will and cast a very critical eye over the rest.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...9-3102,00.html

The statistic that this article quotes is that (in QLD) bike fatalities account for 21% of the road toll yet bikes account for 4% of vehicles on the roads. Yes, of course some of those bike fatalities will have been the result of other vehicles being in the wrong and a few of them are most likely pillions.

And yes, the Courier Mail has never been regarded as a bastion of journalistic integrity. Take what you will from it.