Is going from a 250 to a 1000 too much?

[serious4]

I'm sure this thread has been done before but now its my turn

Although I'm not quite at the stage of being able to legally ride a bigger bike I've started looking at the market to get an idea on prices etc. The bike I'm interested in going to is a SV1000, I'm currently riding a VTR250.

I know the normal step is to go for a 600 of some description from a 250 then step up to a 1000 if the urge is there. But is that middle step really a necessary?

I know you are probably thinking "Why is it you want a 1000" and the reason is mainly for the torque. Even though I haven't looked at the differences in torque. And in the near future I'll be doing some trips to and from Auckland and Wellington. I've got a thousand other lame excuses

I haven't riden a 600 or 1000 so I'm really after your opinion and help. Please don't flame me.

Cheers
kevin

[Monsterbishi]

Any modern 600 will have a mind blowing amount of torque compared to what you're used to now, don't make any decisions until you'll had the opportunity to try what's out there.

[MSTRS:Me]

An SV650 will have more than enough torque. It'll keep you smiling until such time as you may be ready for a thou.

[YellowDog]

IMO - That's too bigger a jump. Most get a slow 600+. I got an XF650 - single pop. An SV650 will give you bags of torque. You may not want to go larger.

You have received some good advice here. Give them all a decent try before deciding.

Good luck.

[skelstar]

I've a pretty level head and went from a Hyobag 250 to a CB900 just fine. Pretty much same torque as a GSXR1000 up to about 10000 rpm, and it hasn't bit me once.

[Kittyhawk]

Any bike is as only as dangerous as to how you ride it.

I would have to advise against buying a litre bike....Modern 600s have more than enough power most have 130 at the rear....Too much power too soon and you will end up 6 feet under. You say at this point you only want it for torque purposes, however when you develop confidence on a larger bike, you'll get a more intense taste of adrenline on the straights when you open it up, then it snowballs from there basicially.

Also if you do decide to get a litre bike you need to know how to ride it properly you can't just jump on and ride, theres a bit more to it than that.

How long have you been riding for?
How many crashes have you had in that time?
What is the purpose of the upgrade?
What style of riding do you think you will mostly be doing?
Will you have a pillion on or is it purely solo riding?
Are you able to afford parts when things break down etc as well as maintenance on it. It's more expensive to maintain a larger bike.

These are all things you have to consider.

I have seen too many times riders get their full licence and go out to buy a litre bike etc, thinking now they have their full they are good riders, only to see the bike dropped within a month or two of ownership, their riding skills are not developed properly and therefore rely on the bike. Within 6 months they would have binned.

If you know what you are looking for, you can see weather a rider has upgraded too soon or not.

Some litre bikes are suited to taller riders because of the height they are etc in comparison to the bike.

Best suggestion is to go test ride some 600's dont even look at litre bikes just yet...when you feel you are ready after owning a 600, you will know when you are ready to upgrade.

You can also do alot more with a 600 as they are more nimble in manouvering around corners etc.

[Coyote]

A TRX850 is a good model. Cheap, powerful but not so powerful, and most people won't say "I told you so" when you crash.

My VFR400 is about on par with a mates SV650. Decent power and torque whilst you're building up your skills, I'm still enjoying the power of my 400 even after riding bigger bikes, though I'd still like another bigger bike when I can afford it.

I rode a ZX10R, I didn't die. I was expecting more from all the rep 1000's get.

[xwhatsit]

Of course, I'm still firmly a 250 rider, and have only ridden a handful of `big bikes' and haven't put much mileage on any of them. However, the SV1000 is a fairly tame 1000cc bike when stacked up against GSXRs and CBRs.

Still, I'd be more tempted by the SV650 -- that way you get to experience the fun of upgrading twice, from the 250->650, then from the 650->1000+ later on.

[FROSTY:Me]

Dude my advice is take it in two steps.Buy Madducks SV650 and enjoy the 650 torque.
Keep in mind too that theres gonna be a heck of a lot of aftermarket parts on the market just after the nationals with a lot of the racers cashing up this years bikes

[MSTRS:Me]

Of course, I'm still firmly a 250 rider, and have only ridden a handful of `big bikes' and haven't put much mileage on any of them. However, the SV1000 is a fairly tame 1000cc bike when stacked up against GSXRs and CBRs.

Still, I'd be more tempted by the SV650 -- that way you get to experience the fun of upgrading twice, from the 250->650, then from the 650->1000+ later on.

The SV will eat a IL4 sprots in the twisties, and won't be embarassing on the straights either. Assuming you are prepared to be given a right royal rogering by if caught.

[skelstar]

The SV will eat a IL4 sprots in the twisties...

Eh? An SV1000 will eat a GSXR600 in the twisties?

[Trudes]

I agree with what others have said about it depending upon your riding ability and maturity to get used to a larger bike slowly, not jump on and give it a huge handful like you might on a 250 and then find yourself sitting on the road after it's chucked you off. If you think you can ride a thou around calmly for a few months before attempting to start finding out what it can really do, then I think why not. The SV1000 is also a better choice than say a GSXR1000 as a first 1000cc bike IMO also, but it will still kick you in the arse just as hard if you don't respect the extra power, but I'm sure you've considered all this and will make the right choice. Good luck!

[Coyote]

Test ride a 600, ride through all of first, and you'll be laughing. Best bike riding experience I've ever had

[MacD]

Dude my advice is take it in two steps.Buy Madducks SV650 and enjoy the 650 torque.

I've already pointed it out to him and I tend to agree.

[ital916]

You want torque....you want torque....i'm pretty sure he said he wants torque..........get a yzf400 motorcross bike spend a thou getting it road legal *it's a pretty tricky process according to my mate*...then you'll have enough torque...plus it will be a hoot lol. I hear sv's are great fun though.