Why should I give warranty in private sale when buyer did not want to pay for it?

[Steve Gauge]

yeah sounds like a 17 year old kid 2 strokes loose compression all the time specially when you run them out of gas all the time , dont agree to any of his demands your mistake was fixing in the first place , after that this guys thinks he has alife time warranty , and he still calls you an arse hole , you are being way to nice , tell him to piss off

[Conquiztador]

You are covered by consumer gurantee's act
7 days is the longest period, and he exceeded that.
I suggest you give the guy his money back - tell him to fuck off, sell it to someone else.
No point in dealing with cocks - makes you a gay man if you do.

I don't want it back. And with the "no compression" problem, no idea what he's done to it.

[Conquiztador]

yeah sounds like a 17 year old kid 2 strokes loose compression all the time specially when you run them out of gas all the time , dont agree to any of his demands your mistake was fixing in the first place , after that this guys thinks he has alife time warranty , and he still calls you an arse hole , you are being way to nice , tell him to piss off

He now has called in the troops. He now has his mum on the case.

[ynot slow]

Have a similar situation for a lady at work,her daughter sold her vehicle with rego,wof etc and as is,the tossers that bought it have just gone for a new wof,and have a list of things to fix now want their money back,albeit the wof was 4 mths old or so.

The new owners say it shouldn't have had a wof according to their source,and have gone to small claims about it,silly thing was the wof was issued by the girls fathers' garage,but he had an independant mechanic go through with him as well,and if it was dodgy wouldn't risk his wof certificate.
I told her the wof is really only applicable at the time it was inspected,so down the track bushes,brakes etc can wear out.

As stated case of buyer beware,and two strokes need oil eh.

[breakaway]

I fucking hate shit like this.

I just had some douchebag buy a computer part from me on trademe. I get an e-mail a week later, saying "Can I get a refund, this part is not compatible with my computer".

Who's fucking fault is that? God dammit. He should have checked if it fits before he bought it. I had clear information about said part in the auction and had a large clear photo. Thing is, I'm fucked, because if I'd don't give him his money back he'll probably retaliate with a negative feedback.

Shit like this really rages me up.

[Conquiztador]

I fucking hate shit like this.

I just had some douchebag buy a computer part from me on trademe. I get an e-mail a week later, saying "Can I get a refund, this part is not compatible with my computer".

Who's fucking fault is that? God dammit. He should have checked if it fits before he bought it. I had clear information about said part in the auction and had a large clear photo. Thing is, I'm fucked, because if I'd don't give him his money back he'll probably retaliate with a negative feedback.

Shit like this really rages me up.

People get too worked up re negative feedback on TM. A clear explanation re what happened is all that is needed where you can post the comment to his/her feedback. And the red rep he will get will tell others what he is like. Too much of the "I am not telling the truth as I will get a red rep" there for the feedback system to work. And in any case, sounds like TM is to follow e-bay and stop negative feedback anyhow.

[barty5]

Have a similar situation for a lady at work,her daughter sold her vehicle with rego,wof etc and as is,the tossers that bought it have just gone for a new wof,and have a list of things to fix now want their money back,albeit the wof was 4 mths old or so.

The new owners say it shouldn't have had a wof according to their source,and have gone to small claims about it,silly thing was the wof was issued by the girls fathers' garage,but he had an independant mechanic go through with him as well,and if it was dodgy wouldn't risk his wof certificate.
I told her the wof is really only applicable at the time it was inspected,so down the track bushes,brakes etc can wear out.

As stated case of buyer beware,and two strokes need oil eh.

The issuing of the wof is up to the person you is writing it out at the time we et it all the time you can take a car to a testing station and pass drive straight down the road and fail people miss things all the time or are happy to over look them or shouldnt be doing them in the first place just check out half the boy racer vehicles around.

[avgas]

I don't want it back. And with the "no compression" problem, no idea what he's done to it.

Well if he can run it out of gas - he's prob run it out of oil.
the rings are prob fine shavings now

[breakaway]

People get too worked up re negative feedback on TM. A clear explanation re what happened is all that is needed where you can post the comment to his/her feedback. And the red rep he will get will tell others what he is like. Too much of the "I am not telling the truth as I will get a red rep" there for the feedback system to work. And in any case, sounds like TM is to follow e-bay and stop negative feedback anyhow.

Nah man, that eBay system works like this: Only the buyer can't get negative feedback. The Buyer is still free to PLACE negative feedback, meaning I'd be shagged. I just bit the bullet and offered a refund. Don't have it in me to spend hours writing out butter-up emails to him and trademe

[Patrick]

Got contacted today by the buyer. They now have a new problem. Recon that they have lost compression (It is a 2 stroke). And they want the money back or: " If we do not hear from you by the 22nd February 2008 we will take further steps to ensure that this matter is corrected expeditiously"

Well, they heard from me. Told them it is now their problem and "All the best"

Two weeks worth of trouble free commuting, and HE breaks it..... HE runs it out of gas? HE runs it out of oil? And it is your problem because....????

I don't want it back. And with the "no compression" problem, no idea what he's done to it.

And that right there is the problem. What has HE done to it in the two weeks he had it? Fanging it with little to no oil perhaps?

Well if he can run it out of gas - he's prob run it out of oil.
the rings are prob fine shavings now

Just as above, IMO..... He can take you to small claims court, but warranty offered and declined, he used it for two weeks trouble free, you fixed one problem coz you're a good bugger (and stored it for free...!!) and now he has ring pieced it again?

His Mummy and Daddy need a reality check...

I would reply to his "Letter with big words" in plain English, pointing out the warranty offer, how it was declined, (making it an as is where is sale) how he has thrashed it for 2 weeks and has made it develop a problem himself, which you fixed for free after he argued about it (even though you clearly had no obligation to do so whatsoever), then he has thrashed it again. Start documenting just in case it does end up in small claims court.

[faredce]

dont back down mate...great insurance analegy thats exactly whats happening u have now fixed it u owed him no favours he cannot expect that you would happily fix it for free he must be dreaming, considering he made u lower ur price.

hang tight. assert urself mate
she'll be right

[JimBob]

A quote from their email: "Given the continual problems we have experienced we decided to get another mechanic to have look at the bike. "It appears that the bike has no compression! Compression is something that reduces over the lifetime of a machine - our mechanic is very sure that this bike would have had VERY little life left in it when we brought it off you."

It started well. It run well. It has a separate oil tank...

As long as you didnt make misleading statements like "this will last you years mate" you have nothing to worry about. They tested it, they made the decision to purchase.
This crew is trying it on
You did make the whole thing more complicated than it needed to be by offering a warranty for 1-2 mths. Makes it all too airy fairy. Turns into he said she said.
Keep it simple and never promise anything!

Email them back and request a copy of the mechanics report.
Also request that the qualifications, experience and contact details of the mechanic oops 'Motorcycle Technician', be included.
Stick to your guns, they own it, its their problem.
good luck
The only warranty I have ever offered is an outa sight warranty.
When its outa sight its outa warranty.

[Conquiztador]

Yep. I have in the last years sold a few bikes. I have purchased them cheap, spent some hours and bits getting them working and then sold them. I have got them to a stage where, if I was looking for one of them, would be happy to pay the asking price. And I have also made sure that they are decent.

But when you sell a few, there is always the chance that one develops a problem. We are talking about s/h bikes here. But I have always told the buyer that "hey, pay the asking price and if something major goes wrong inside a month or so, I sort it". Only have had this happen once in 4 years and sorted it. As I try to make sure the bikes are ok.

I always tell the buyer that the "back to me" warranty is in place for the asking price. And most take it and pay up.

In this case it did not work out.

So after this one I will have to reconsider my way of doing things. Shit, the only thing they would have had to do is to say: "Hey, we fucked up, any chance you can help us please? I bring a JD around"...

[FruitLooPs]

Tell the prat to get a workshop manual and get to work

17, didn't fill it with gas. Bet you anything it's been strung out from cold and probably out of oil too. If he doesn't have $80 for the repairs you made he sure as shite doesn't have $80 for some good 2T oil. Gotta explain 2-strokes, especially to first time owners.

What was the bike out of interest?

What a crock sure you lose compression slowly over the life of the bike but not from running well and selling to no compression in a week, thats got breakage/misuse all over it.

Besides, if he had any gumption at all he would've done or requested a compression test before purchase. Buyer beware..