Here is the first shot in the war on democracy

[Jantar]

New Zealanders normally resident in New Zealand are subject to the laws of New Zealand, irrespective of where a web site may be hosted. And, if a crime has been committed or believed to have been committed, yes "they" can "waltz in and demand information". The same applies to other countries. Try posting some pro-terrorist shit (but not on this site, OK) on a New Zealand-hosted site and start your stopwatch to see how long it is before you get a knock on your door.

So this site http://dontvotelabourcartoons.com/ Is hosted by an Australian Citizen on a USA website. Lets see how the elecoral commission handle this.

[Hitcher]

Lets see how the elecoral commission handle this.

Brilliant! Let the games commence...

[Mr Merde]

The major fault with this whole thread is very basic.

You are all accepting the myth that we live in a democracy.

Sorry but we live in an oligrahy where the ruling class doesnt care what we think or do as long as we do not upset their gravey train.

There has never been in known history, a true democracy.

[Hitcher]

Sorry but we live in an oligrahy where the ruling class doesnt care what we think or do as long as we do not upset their gravey train.

Oligarchy, perhaps?

1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2. a state or organisation so ruled.
3. the persons or class so ruling.

Gravy?

1. the fat and juices that drip from cooking meat, often thickened, seasoned, flavored, etc., and used as a sauce for meat, potatoes, rice, etc.
2. Slang.
a. profit or money easily obtained or received unexpectedly.
b. money illegally or dishonestly acquired, esp. through graft.
3. something advantageous or valuable that is received or obtained as a benefit beyond what is due or expected.

[Mr Merde]

Oligarchy, perhaps?

1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2. a state or organisation so ruled.
3. the persons or class so ruling.

Gravy?

1. the fat and juices that drip from cooking meat, often thickened, seasoned, flavored, etc., and used as a sauce for meat, potatoes, rice, etc.
2. Slang.
a. profit or money easily obtained or received unexpectedly.
b. money illegally or dishonestly acquired, esp. through graft.
3. something advantageous or valuable that is received or obtained as a benefit beyond what is due or expected.

I thank you for the corrections and definitions. Its late, I'm tired and as such am taking less care over what I write.

Your definitions give clarity to my post. I hope it explains it to the other readers of this thread.

[Ixion]

Oligarchy, perhaps?

1. a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.
2. a state or organisation so ruled.
3. the persons or class so ruling.

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A tetrach will know such things.Though now we are down to a diarchy it appears. But , NZ is a timocracy I think .

[Jantar]

... But , NZ is a timocracy I think .

No, we were, but the property requirement was removed over 100 years ago. Many of our present MPs do not own property (well not when first elected), and the list system moves us even further away from Timocracy.

[Ixion]

You are talking of the qualification for voting in the trienniel charade. I am talking of the people who actually rule the country. Quite different matters.

[RON SOAK]

ummmmmmmm......................rrrrright!



Think ill just go back to my (well...someone elses actually, but im paid well to be there) hole in the ground - much less posturing, preening & ego stroking .........