Sachs Maddass

**White trash** · 3rd February 2008, 07:24

Originally Posted by Badcat

hey.
those trickers are sweet - but way too pricey. $5k is the cheapest i've seen one.
a vanvan would be just about as good (i owned one of those too - i like them small and dumb) and you can pick up a low mile one on TM for $3000-3500...
you've probably ridden a vanvan - they are sweet!

ken

Yeah mate, I rate the Vanvan but it's not quite the right bike for hooning around Skate parks and up and down stairways. Wheelies on them are a bit of an effort too.

Oh Christ, I hope Dipshit doesn't read this thread

**Forest** · 7th February 2008, 20:03

Originally Posted by Badcat

no - sachs now build their bikes in china.
there are other manufacturers making madass clones - and THESE are the ones that are failing. i haven't seen one actual sachs madass with major issues.
as i said before - i own one - and mine is very well put together and strong.
it seems that the people who talk about them being crap always "heard it from a mate"

Didn't the official NZ distributor for Sachs write an open letter on this subject?

If I recall correctly, the quality from the new manufacturer was so appalling that the official distributor actually gave up on the product.

**cowpoos** · 8th February 2008, 00:15

Originally Posted by White trash

125cc, manual 4 speed model.

Anyone ridden one? What are they actually like? Looks like you could have a fucken ball on one.

Make mine matt black please.

get one sunshine....then I'll come around with a box stienies and give you an education on how to wheelie one!!

then you can give me some speeling and punchtuation leasons!!

**Forest** · 8th February 2008, 01:06

Here we go - the warning letter from the former Sachs distributor which was linked in the last thread.

Please read the letter if you're considering buying one of these bikes.

From: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...0&postcount=19

**.produKt** · 21st May 2008, 00:53

Well then. The question remains.

Do i get one? and if i ask the seller of the bike if it's a cheaply made chinese ripoff - Will he answer truthfully? What if it does turn out to be a cheap ripoff? What are my options?

**NordieBoy** · 21st May 2008, 07:13

Originally Posted by .produKt

Well then. The question remains.

Do i get one? and if i ask the seller of the bike if it's a cheaply made chinese ripoff - Will he answer truthfully? What if it does turn out to be a cheap ripoff? What are my options?

Not so much a cheaply made Chinese ripoff as a cheaply made Chinese MadAss.
They make the MadAss now under licence from Sachs.

**.produKt** · 7th June 2008, 17:36

We'll, I've test ridden one courtesy of Motorcycle Imports down Tuam st, just around the corner from me.

Pictures do not do the bike justice! The engineering in the bike is fantastically thought out and if anything, i enjoyed looking at it, more than riding it

To ride, i thought it was absolutely brilliant! Accelerate normally and you really do feel the torque and suprisingly is wasn't that slow. Albeit a far cry from my Zxr250 of old

Open up the throttle till just over half way and the sound is niice, for a single banger!. You can easily hear a deep burble that seems to come from the first 2 inch of exhaust pipe & echo's in your helmut

.

The chassis/frame is communicative too. I could feel the slight flex of the sidewall when i chucked it right......... then left without braking for a corner at all

lol

A few critizims tho. The seat is to wide at the front and caused some discomfort in my inner thighs, The choke needs a spring on the end of the lever or something. A choke should have some feel to it . It felt as daft and as disconnected as love making is virtually -_-. And my biggest crit of all this is the branding.

I'd never heard of Sach's before coming across this bike on Tardeme. This does not fill me with confidence when it comes to finding parts \ support etc!~

I am getting one.

. Just gotta wait for the delivery for a matt black 125

**skidMark** · 7th June 2008, 17:37

Originally Posted by White trash

125cc, manual 4 speed model.

Anyone ridden one? What are they actually like? Looks like you could have a fucken ball on one.

Make mine matt black please.

Yer ridden one, seat is high and uncomfotable, it is a fucked up riding position.

**.produKt** · 7th June 2008, 17:46

Hm - I agree.

Quite fun tho, and unique too. mine's going to the modshop as soon as i get it

**nptnz** · 7th June 2008, 18:50

Hi ,

Neat bike my misses wants one for her birthday,might even give her a muffler for free!!

http://nz.youtube.com/watch?v=AC8HWgOro34
see link

**Badcat** · 7th June 2008, 19:31

Originally Posted by .produKt

Hm - I agree.

Quite fun tho, and unique too. mine's going to the modshop as soon as i get it

please post the changes you make.
my girlfriend (KB name Madass) has one and we'll be modding it too...
prob an engine swap - seems to be the most cost-effective as the pitbike places can sell decent 110 or 125s for $5-600 with carb , ignition etc.
just bolt them up - but you will lose the electric start..
ken

**.produKt** · 7th June 2008, 20:05

Originally Posted by Badcat

please post the changes you make.
my girlfriend (KB name Madass) has one and we'll be modding it too...
prob an engine swap - seems to be the most cost-effective as the pitbike places can sell decent 110 or 125s for $5-600 with carb , ignition etc.
just bolt them up - but you will lose the electric start..
ken

Yea sounds like a plan. TBH i was thinking something a bit more technical and supercharging it, as i just LOVE the supercharger whine

But in the end, whatever i do has to be unique. I'm thinking nos & or supercharger

I already have a turbo that i've stripped down to a compressor housing and pulley, and that's intended for another project. hmm what to do.

Here's some of the feasible idea's i've had tho.

Gear reduction \ lengthen.
Cam grind
Porting (very feasible as i have a die grinder with appropriate tools.)
aftermarket exhaust from neptunemufflers.co.nz *shameless plug*
Lightweight rims
Better tyres
Carbon rear tyre huggers (although mainly cosmetic)
POD filter?
Intake Tract shortening (mainly to get rid of the ripples in those horrid tubes (less turbulence)
LArger carb
Jetted carb

Feel free to add any ideas

- rich

**Badcat** · 7th June 2008, 20:33

Originally Posted by .produKt

Yea sounds like a plan. TBH i was thinking something a bit more technical and supercharging it, as i just LOVE the supercharger whine

But in the end, whatever i do has to be unique. I'm thinking nos & or supercharger

I already have a turbo that i've stripped down to a compressor housing and pulley, and that's intended for another project. hmm what to do.

Here's some of the feasible idea's i've had tho.

Gear reduction \ lengthen.
Cam grind
Porting (very feasible as i have a die grinder with appropriate tools.)
aftermarket exhaust from neptunemufflers.co.nz *shameless plug*
Lightweight rims
Better tyres
Carbon rear tyre huggers (although mainly cosmetic)
POD filter?
Intake Tract shortening (mainly to get rid of the ripples in those horrid tubes (less turbulence)
LArger carb
Jetted carb

Feel free to add any ideas

- rich

i visited a mini mx bike shop right on the panmure roundabout -i think the guy's name was richard. he used to sell the madass and reckons an engine swap is the best idea - keeps it reliable.
he said a pod filter and carb rejet makes a big difference - along with the ignition and a freer exhaust if you don't want to bolt up a newer motor..

take a look here too...

http://www.ooracing.com/store/index....wCat&catId=116

ken

**.produKt** · 7th June 2008, 20:39

holyshit wow they have a extensive range or tuning parts for the madass bikes :O

If you ever make an order thru them, let me know and i'll double up on shipping with you, that way it'll save us both