Straight pipes

[dmouse]

Unfortunately as dmouse sort of suggests it probably won't be about bikes at all that stuffs us in the end as far as noise goes but cars. The will be another boy racer crack down and the Govt will bring in new legislation about vehicle modifications and noise and we will end up as a by-catch of that legislation.
So us bike riders probably won't get an opinion or say in the matter in the end. I will be keeping my stock pipe in the garage for when that happens as it surely will.

exactly right mate we are only the small fry in this green eco forced world, where the thinking of so few is thrust down our throats, and without conclusive prrof to boot.

its a known fact that every few 1000 years or so the ice caps melt co2 levels rise and the greenhouse effect happens its documented from soil records, but it only now that humans think that they can change nature at the cost of so many, rising co2 also means rising costs for us all for a so called better world.

[Headbanger]

Unfortunately as dmouse sort of suggests it probably won't be about bikes at all that stuffs us in the end as far as noise goes but cars. The will be another boy racer crack down and the Govt will bring in new legislation about vehicle modifications and noise and we will end up as a by-catch of that legislation.
So us bike riders probably won't get an opinion or say in the matter in the end. I will be keeping my stock pipe in the garage for when that happens as it surely will.

If the noise levels are comparable then why should we be exempt?

[GaZBur]

If the noise levels are comparable then why should we be exempt?

I don't think we should be exempt, I am only pointing out that we aren't going to have any say or option in the matter in the end. I agree with what MNZ are doing in setting a maximum noise level of 96 decebels and think it is reasonable all vehicles should be under this level - road or race. I am sure my hearing suffers at Motards and MX riders are subject to the same levels as are many road riders(usually by thier own bike though). It well known that hearing damage starts as low as 85 so I am for reduction in noise levels for that reason and also for the annoyance loud vehicles make.

[motorbyclist]

exactly right mate we are only the small fry in this green eco forced world, where the thinking of so few is thrust down our throats, and without conclusive prrof to boot.

its a known fact that every few 1000 years or so the ice caps melt co2 levels rise and the greenhouse effect happens its documented from soil records, but it only now that humans think that they can change nature at the cost of so many, rising co2 also means rising costs for us all for a so called better world.

every few thousand years?

you may want to check that one

picking and choosing numbers you like won't change the fact that loud machinery annoys the general public. it's a democracy so you'll just have to put up with it or, unfortunately, emmigrate

[Subike]

Today I let a friend take my bike for a ride,
The first time I had heard it on the road, whilst I was within earshot.
It is loud, not in a deffening way, but it groweling tone carrys for streets.
I have a 4 -1 with a harris muffler.
This week I will be buying a Dunstal trumpet to replace the Harris.
I wand to change the sound so that it is not so over whelming,
It was given a WOF like this, but sonetines the tone is worse than than the volume

[AllanB]

i had a triumph tr6r with standard pipes very simular to the bonnie and it was louder than my harley so i do not see where the sparrow fart came from !!!!!

Brand new Bonnie that is! Heck i read recently that in the 60's on some bonnie models mufflers were an optional extra!

Times are a changing..........

[dmouse]

every few thousand years?

you may want to check that one

picking and choosing numbers you like won't change the fact that loud machinery annoys the general public. it's a democracy so you'll just have to put up with it or, unfortunately, emmigrate

nit picking we wont be around to see the end of this one and we wont be around for the next one, that is if anyone is.

you could allways sell your bike and get a scooter that makes that horrable whine noise, also maybe the police and other emergency services will have to turn down there sirens as they are over the legal 96db limit as are most house/car/bike alarms where do you finish !!!!!!