Do I pay this ticket?

[Toaster]

So he says that ticket is cancelled and he has issued a replacment!
Can they do this? would you pay?

Yes, absolutely they can.

[jafar]

And it aint quotas.... its "Flybuys"... I nearly got enough for a flash toaster!!!

I knew there was a system

Or, why not just stop getting tickets? You talk as if the cops are the bad guys, but you're the one knowingly breakign the law. It doesn't matter if you agree with the law or not, it's your obligation to follow it.

Your on what planet exactly ?? The discussion is about errors on tickets !!
If you wish to get on your soapbox about not getting tickets that is in another thread

[Blue Velvet]

Bloody dodgy motorcyclists!

[Patrick]

Erm, no he's a lawyer and works in prosecutions. What you're talking about applies to criminal cases. Infringement notices, like Spudchucka said earlier in the thread, are heard by JPs.

By JP's, in the court where the offence is committed, if it is defended.... otherwise everyone will want it transferred to Invercargill/Kaitaia or summit... If ya nodding, it can be transferred wherever ya like. Mind you, I've never been to Invercargill - could be a taxpayer funded trip?

[Drunken Monkey]

Only to your own local DC. It's a blue form, IN14 or something like that. I'll see if I've still got the instructions somewhere.

[Zuki Bandit]

On our South Island holiday last week it finally happened - got a ticket.
Straight road , only me and one other car, happened to be a mufti cop.
Lucky was only 115 kph. Not too big a deal.
When I got home there was a letter from the cop, date was wrong, my address was wrong on ticket. So he says that ticket is cancelled and he has issued a replacment!
Can they do this? would you pay?

I would just pay it. Not worth the hassle!

[Patrick]

Only to your own local DC. It's a blue form, IN14 or something like that. I'll see if I've still got the instructions somewhere.

You will find it is only for guilty pleas. Defended hearings will only be heard in the court nearest the location of the offence. They will not fly witnesses (who are usually locals be it Police, civillian or whatever) to wherever the Defendant might want it to go to.

[Manxman]

Do the crime, do the time. Pay the fine son.

If you don't want to pay fines, stop speeding.

Can't argue with that logic.

[sAsLEX]

A clever lawyer would get you off that. Probably. Is $80 and 20 demerits worth his fee tho? Plus the court costs if you lose?

A simple lawyer should. The charge is flawed.

I know if we made a fuck up like that charging someone in the NZDF it would get chucked out on legal grounds.

[scumdog]

A simple lawyer should. The charge is flawed.

I know if we made a fuck up like that charging someone in the NZDF it would get chucked out on legal grounds.

Even if you realised the error and amended it??

Harsh, man, harsh.

Perfection must be so hard to live with....

[swbarnett]

By trying to challenge the ticket because of errors, possibly dragging it into a hearing, you are wasting everyone's time. That's time that the cops could be spending ..[snip].. doing what they do best - keeping us all safe.

But that's not their job. The job of the police is to uphold the law.

[kinger]

So what, exactly, stops a traffic officer (whom I generally appreciate for their work) from "realising" the ticket for 111kmh should have been for 141kmh?
Without the need for you to sign the ticket when it is issued, there seems to be an opinion that we should all lie down and let the uniforms do as they see fit to defenceless, conformist members of the public.

Good job the Germans didn't win eh?

I'm not saying I dispute the issuing of a ticket, but surely it shouldn't be amendable at a later date. This is the most common reason for disputing a ticket in UK, and yes, speeders are worse than paedophiles or suicide bombers in the governments' eyes there as well

[Soul.Trader]

What you're illustrating, kinger, is the difference between legitimate changes, and illegitimate alterations to an infringement notice. Overhauling the offence after it has been given is obviously not going to go down well - thankfully, there's plenty of evidence that it's happened. If you're given a ticket for 11kph over, and you later receive a new infringement for 40kph over, you would obviously challenge it, and only expect to pay for the 11kph fine, if any. You have your copy of the infringement notice, as well as the officer's notes to support the fact that the ticket was issued illegitimately. Trying to draw a similarity between a genuine clerical error and a deliberate and illegal alteration is not really credible.

[kinger]

And suppose the offender had already accumalated 80 points (with a multitude of failing to stay to the left as far as possible offences), this ticket could result in him his losing his licence, then, because he can't get to work, his job, then, because he can't pay his bills, his house.
With the potential to change your life, the least you should be able to expect is that the officer could be good enough to ensure it was correct in the first place, dontcha think?

[Soul.Trader]

And suppose the offender had already accumalated 80 points (with a multitude of failing to stay to the left as far as possible offences), this ticket could result in him his losing his licence, then, because he can't get to work, his job, then, because he can't pay his bills, his house.
With the potential to change your life, the least you should be able to expect is that the officer could be good enough to ensure it was correct in the first place, dontcha think?

That has nothing to do with the fact an offence was committed. Are we supposed to sympathise with someone who gets caught speeding (a recidivous offender by your story), just because the cop spelt their home address wrong?