Do I pay this ticket?

**jafar** · 15th February 2008, 20:40

Originally Posted by scumdog

Sure.

But the original ticket was cancelled eh!

The new one was correct.

I hope you're only trolling and not planning to join the other KB 'I know the law' morons giving erroneous legal advice??

It would seem the original ticket was wrong & the officer then wrote a new one with the correct information on it, or is it ??
Is he able to write yet another ticket for this if he or his boss finds yet another error ??????
It would be unlikely that prosecution would proceed if this ticket was challenged.

& no I'm neither trolling or claiming to be a bush lawyer

**spudchucka** · 15th February 2008, 21:40

Originally Posted by jafar

ANY clerical error in the ORIGINAL TICKET is enough to get it thrown out.

Why do you think that they cancel it and issue another with the correct details?

**jahrasti** · 16th February 2008, 07:25

Originally Posted by spudchucka

Why do you think that they cancel it and issue another with the correct details?

I wouldn't even bother anymore as it's not getting through.

**scumdog** · 16th February 2008, 07:51

Explanations from those who know on this thread =

and

**MGST** · 16th February 2008, 08:05

I got pingind for 69k on Tamaki Drive last month. The dipshit cop ( he was white, and a Kiwi ) that wrote out the ticket spelt my name wrong ( copied off my licence ), spelt the road I live on wrong, spelt the suburb I live in wrong, and put down a non-existant class of vehicle. So I wrote to Wellington and said that I will settle for them throwing away the ticket. They wrote back, saying that the ticket is not a legal document so it doesn't matter if there are "minor clerical errors" on it, and quoted some case from 1993 about some similar thing where the court said the ticket stands, and they want me to pay it. Fuck that shit!!

I don't have the time or money for lawyers etc, so I wrote a cheque for the ticket ( $120 ) and wrote a shitty letter saying that if the ticket is not a legal document then there is no legal obligation for me to pay it, and if that's the best their officers can do no wonder no one respects them. It's the old "do as I say, not as I do" routine.

Useless fucks.

**madandy** · 16th February 2008, 10:28

Is it really that crucial that Police are perfect spellers? You were speeding in a 50 zone mate. That's the worst offense in NZ didn't ya know?
I can understand people getting off fines where the fine itself is unreasonable but in a case where you've been caught fairly whats the big deal? You know you were in the wrong. HTFU. or get a radar detector.

**nick69** · 16th February 2008, 20:50

The police can and do cancel then reissue tickets. It is lawful and will stand up in court as long as they have reissued it in a timely fashion. If you fail to pay it you will find yourself in court and paying the court costs if found guilty.

Its easy really if you dont want a ticket dont speed, they cant give out tickets without someone doing something wrong. Just chalk down to experience and make sure you are careful in future. I know this wont bode well with some people on here but you cant please everyone.

**Patrick** · 19th February 2008, 17:57

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

No, and No.

First, do NOTHING until they send you the computer printed notice. Then reply thusly ;

Blah blah...

That will be the notice replacing the dud one, the right one, ay?

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

I agree. For some of us it is just a game to play though, and we like that sort of crap.

Others don't - celebrate that we can choose !

DB

Bailiffs love that game too. Don't pay, they happen along and see fines outstanding, turn it into a warrant to seize property on the spot, and bingo, bye bye bike/car/whatever... Sold to defer the fines and costs accumulated. Doesn't matter if it isn't yours either... there is a thing called "apparent use of" and it is then deemed to be yours.

Originally Posted by jafar

Wrong they must have all of the imformation correct or the ticket is invalid

No. Just most of it correct. And as fore the speelling.... hoo gives a rats ass (or is that arse?). Its the new standard out there... no one can spell any more.

**Divot** · 19th February 2008, 18:27

Originally Posted by spudchucka

It will stand up in court and when the Infringement Bureau receives your letter they will just put you in the moron basket, wait till you don't turn up for your court hearing and have you convicted in your absence.

Is that the D.S.G.F letter?

**jafar** · 19th February 2008, 19:06

No. Just most of it correct. And as fore the speelling.... hoo gives a rats ass (or is that arse?). Its the new standard out there... no one can spell any more.[/QUOTE]

Does this mean that next time I get a ticket & it has the wrong date, wrong time, wrong street, wrong name, wrong speed, wrong car, wrong rego, wrong driver, wrong spleeling . That I should just pay it cos the orificer needs to keep his quota up ?

Oh thats right they don't have "quota's" what was I thinking

**scumdog** · 19th February 2008, 20:53

Originally Posted by jafar

No. Just most of it correct. And as fore the speelling.... hoo gives a rats ass (or is that arse?). Its the new standard out there... no one can spell any more.

Does this mean that next time I get a ticket & it has the wrong date, wrong time, wrong street, wrong name, wrong speed, wrong car, wrong rego, wrong driver, wrong spleeling . That I should just pay it cos the orificer needs to keep his quota up ?

[/QUOTE]

Have you NOT followed this thread at all?

Ya wait until the proper ticket arrives - the first one is just a teaser...

**Soul.Trader** · 20th February 2008, 06:30

Originally Posted by jafar

Does this mean that next time I get a ticket & it has the wrong date, wrong time, wrong street, wrong name, wrong speed, wrong car, wrong rego, wrong driver, wrong spleeling . That I should just pay it cos the orificer needs to keep his quota up ?

Oh thats right they don't have "quota's" what was I thinking

Or, why not just stop getting tickets? You talk as if the cops are the bad guys, but you're the one knowingly breakign the law. It doesn't matter if you agree with the law or not, it's your obligation to follow it.

**BIHB@0610** · 20th February 2008, 07:03

You are just lucky you didn't hit someone. At 110km/h in a car you are twice as likely to crash as at 100km/h (don't ask where I heard that statistic, I freely admit I can't remember - think it was on the Dominion Post website - if challenged I'll happily retract it).

You might think speeding isn't a big deal, but it's dangerous and illegal. If you speed and get caught, apologise to the cop (I mean it!!!) for wasting his time, be thankful you didn't hurt anyone, and pay the fine like a real man.

By trying to challenge the ticket because of errors, possibly dragging it into a hearing, you are wasting everyone's time. That's time that the cops could be spending out on the road helping people after an accident, comforting the dying, stopping drunk drivers, redirecting traffic after a truck has rolled around a blind corner, and doing what they do best - keeping us all safe.

So, to take it that one step further, while you play your silly little games, you are putting my family at risk because there are less police out there to protect and help us.

**CookMySock** · 20th February 2008, 07:26

Originally Posted by MGST

They wrote back, saying that the ticket is not a legal document so it doesn't matter if there are "minor clerical errors" on it

Yes this is correct, and you are skrewed.

DONT REPLY TO THE HANDWRITTEN INFRINGEMENT NOTICE. AT ALL. SAY NUTHIN. NADA.

Wait for the computer printed one and when that is incorrect then tell them to stick THAT one up their arse.

DB