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    I was there...

    Tell me, why are the likes of 1975 triumph Tridents allowed to run but not a similar vintage Japanese bike to be seen? If I remember rightly Jap 2 stroke racers were cleaning-up by 1975.

    Was that a 70sih HD 350 2-stroke I saw out there?

    I won't be going again until its "all inclusive".

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    NO Japanese machines are elligible under the Classic register rules!!!!!! You can ride a 2008 McIntosh Manx Norton, but cannot race anything Japanese. yet they hang their promotion on a "Hailwood" Honda and several years ago their Poster was Paul Smart on a TR Yamaha, but try to enter even a Factory machine from the day and your entry will be refused because your bike is not eligible under the Classic Register Rules. Two faced some would say, but hey, thats the Classic Register!!! There is a Factory Honds 250 - 4 cylinder Jim Redman machine in Drury, but it cannot be riaced at the event, so the owner will not allow it to be used by the register.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogson View Post
    I was there...

    Tell me, why are the likes of 1975 triumph Tridents allowed to run but not a similar vintage Japanese bike to be seen? If I remember rightly Jap 2 stroke racers were cleaning-up by 1975.

    Was that a 70sih HD 350 2-stroke I saw out there?

    I won't be going again until its "all inclusive".
    Yep. Sure was. And going very well , too. That an the Moto Morini are my picks for bike of the event.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
    This world has lost it's drive, everybody just wants to fit in the be the norm as it were.
    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
    The manufacturers go to a lot of trouble to find out what the average rider prefers, because the maker who guesses closest to the average preference gets the largest sales. But the average rider is mainly interested in silly (as opposed to useful) “goodies” to try to kid the public that he is riding a racer

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    The kids thought that little Bultaco was the dog's bollox. Didn't even see the porcupine in the end but hey spent all the old man's spending money and on the way home spent a while talking about what bike they are going to get themselves, $2-00 poster is already hanging off one of the bedroom walls.
    Another great day out with amazing access to the pits and all the action. Just the thing to inspire young fellas

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogson View Post
    I was there...

    Tell me, why are the likes of 1975 triumph Tridents allowed to run but not a similar vintage Japanese bike to be seen? If I remember rightly Jap 2 stroke racers were cleaning-up by 1975.

    Was that a 70sih HD 350 2-stroke I saw out there?

    I won't be going again until its "all inclusive".
    You are missing the word ''Classic''.It's supposed to be about the ''classic era'',that's why the Hailwood Honda can run.But yeah,letter box Tridents,Paul Smart Ducatis (but he rode a letter box) but not the Honda that beat them at Daytona.But they have bent a lot over the years.I remember in the early years of the Classic weekend they wouldn't let me race my 1961 Norton because it had a Commando front brake,wouldn't let me race a sidecar because no one was interested in watching sidecars.But I still go to the meeting as often as I can.Post Classics and Forgotten era are there for other bikes....wait a few years and there will be a class for those old '90's dungers that everyone threw away.

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    Here's a few photos. The guy on the Bantam was cool; unfortunately it stalled on the grid. His points shat themselves Saturday, and he went out and got a new set made in Pukekohe that afternoon. He thinks they were a bit more advanced than the old ones, leading to it stalling.

    Got shitloads of other photos. Goldstars, Manx Nortons and AJS/Matchless Boy-racers feature prominently.

    Check out the cockpit of the RC181. Doesn't look like it'd be much good on my commute, I think the turning circle is a bit useless. Having brakes/gear shift round the `proper' way would help with the hill-starts, however
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bykmad View Post
    There is a Factory Honds 250 - 4 cylinder Jim Redman machine in Drury, but it cannot be riaced at the event, so the owner will not allow it to be used by the register.
    Is this the machine they demo'd at the 1964 (I think) NZGP?
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    SPman.I am not sure on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Is this the machine they demo'd at the 1964 (I think) NZGP?
    No.
    The bike Jim brought out was a 250. I need to check his autobiography, but he brought bikes in the 60's to race more than demo. There was also a 250 twin floating around.
    The bike being referred to in the previous posts is actually a 350.

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    I can understand pre a certain date (1963?) models being defined as classics, but the programme includes a host of late 60 to mid 70s models that are defined as post classics. So, Japanese bikes of this era are not post-classics? - or or are they excluded because it doesn't suit the preferences and biases of the people who run the register?

    That the HD 350 was allowed to run is a blatant example of a double standard. Wasn't the HD just a "me-to" copy of Jap 2-stroke racers of the time to enable HD to field a competitive machine at Daytona?

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    I thought the HD 350 was an Aermacchi, not a Japper.

    I would've loved to see that Honda 250. RC164?

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    Yith the HD 350 was an Aermacchi. Eytalian, not jappa. So either way, Yuropean or Yank it counts as a BEAR.
    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil Vincent
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogson View Post
    or or are they excluded because it doesn't suit the preferences and biases of the people who run the register?
    You pretty much got it in one
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogson View Post
    I was there...

    Tell me, why are the likes of 1975 triumph Tridents allowed to run but not a similar vintage Japanese bike to be seen? If I remember rightly Jap 2 stroke racers were cleaning-up by 1975.

    Was that a 70sih HD 350 2-stroke I saw out there?

    I won't be going again until its "all inclusive".

    Because the people who put their own money up to run the event think it would detract from the appeal of the event and considering their success and their customer base - they are probably correct.

    Give it a few years and it may change but it's a very special event because it has stuck to some very strict guidelines and the crowds like it which means it's a success.

    There is nothing to stop you or a group running a similar event featuring the machine you love - get the formula right and you may have a winner!

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