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    The Police F*#k up AGAIN

    since u guys like bagging the Poice so much, ya may as well blame them for this to. On a more serious note this SUCKS
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    Community work term for u-turn death driver

    22.10.2004
    By LOUISA CLEAVE
    Engineering student James Stampa only ever wanted to design high-performance vehicles.

    While he studied for the necessary degrees to achieve his ambition, the 20-year-old also worked hard to own them.

    His last purchase was a 600cc Honda motorbike and he was so thrilled with his new bike, his mother recalls, that he gave her a rare kiss the night before he died.

    "We were in the kitchen talking and James told us his bike was the best thing he'd ever owned, even better than his stereo, and he was so happy I even got a kiss," said Sam Fuller-Stampa.

    "When he was a little boy hugs and kisses were abundant, but as he became older they became rationed, and being so tall - James was about 1.9m - I couldn't sneak them so I had to bribe him."

    The following day James was taking friend Joe Griffiths for a ride on the motorbike during their lunch break at Auckland University when a vehicle made a u-turn in front of him in Symonds St, central Auckland. He braked heavily but could not stop in time, and collided with the car.

    James' sister Holly was just leaving one of her own university classes and walked into the middle of the accident scene. She had to phone their parents with the devastating news that he was dead.

    Student Bo Cong pleaded guilty to careless driving causing the death of James and injuring Joe, who recently turned 21 and still suffers from a leg injury suffered in the March 25 crash.

    Cong, who came from China in January 2001, pleaded not guilty to driving while forbidden. He said he did not understand the meaning of a ticket he was issued two months before the crash for failing to produce a New Zealand driver's licence.

    Judge Simon Lockhart, QC, found Cong not guilty of driving while forbidden to drive. He said there was a possibility Cong did not know what "forbidden" meant because of his limited English.

    Yesterday Cong was sentenced to 250 hours' community work and disqualified from driving for two years.

    Mrs Fuller-Stampa described the sentence as "a load of garbage" but she did not think a prison sentence would have served any use.

    The family still grieved for their son and brother, she said.

    James was in his third year of a degree in mechanical engineering and had started to make inquiries in Europe, Asia and America about studying aerodynamics - the next step in his path to becoming a designer of high-performance cars.

    Mrs Fuller-Stampa said James worked part-time jobs from age 15 to buy cars and motorbikes. The aim was to cash up his assets eventually and pay for his overseas education.

    His other passion in life was big game fishing, and his 1996 national junior record for a 71kg mako shark caught on a 8kg tackle still stands, said Mrs Fuller-Stampa.

    James spent holidays with his grandparents in the Bay of Islands and his grandfather, Snooks Fuller, who began the Fuller ferry company, introduced him to fishing.

    Over the years James caught eight marlin, which he tagged and released, and enjoyed his last big- game fishing expedition with his grandfather on a Fiji holiday to celebrate his 20th birthday.
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    and while we are bitching about our knowledgable sentencing ones - compulsiry steralization should of been carried out at conviction 1.

    Poor health saves fraudster from jail

    21.10.2004 2.00 pm

    A Rotorua mother of eight with more than 40 previous dishonesty convictions has escaped going to jail because of her ill health.

    Maru Teremoana Karika, 36, beneficiary, admitted eight charges of fraudulently using a document and three of attempted fraud.

    Ms Karika was one of two women who used a dead man's cheques, made out for amounts totalling $23,000, to top up a Warehouse credit card between August 29 and September 10 last year.

    Judge Phillip Cooper told Rotorua District Court Karika had 43 previous convictions for dishonesty and was jailed two years in 2001 for some of those offences.

    She was on parole when she committed the latest fraud offences.

    However, it was not appropriate to send Ms Karika to jail primarily because she had a serious illness and it was not known if she required more surgery.

    He noted Ms Karika was also pregnant.

    He sentenced her to 200 hours' community work and said a final prison warning would be put on her record.

    Ms Karika's associate was sentenced to 120 hours' community work last month.

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    dude that doesnt make me angry at the police, just sad for this guys family. He sounded like a top bloke, what a loss. And do we like bagging the police here ? thats Lou :d The police have nothing to do with this case, if we're lucky they may have knocked him around with the auckland yellow pages.
    just really sad.............
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    Ummm dude....sentencing has nothing to do with the Police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoon
    Ummm dude....sentencing has nothing to do with the Police.
    Thank you Hoon.

    THe thing we have to bear in mind (despite what I said in the other thread) is that judges are constrained by law and precedent to a greater extent than the Police are constrained by what charge they can apply. I am sure that the Policeman who charged the little creep charged him with what he thought was most likely to garner a conviction.

    The whole thing still stinks though, and it wouldn't surprise me to find that the perp or his family have made a large anonymous donation to a charity of some sort.

    I don't think I would remain a free man for very long if something like that happened to one of my boys and the perp effectively got away with it.

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    ya dreamin

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoon
    Ummm dude....sentencing has nothing to do with the Police.
    wake up, all the Police bashers will tell ya if the cops had of spoken Mandarin or Cantonese or got a interpreter down then this would not have happened. Said Asain student would of understood fully he was not to drive and this boy would still be alive.

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    I see in the NZ herald today the Police have finally woken up and taken the right tact ovcer the girl missin in Piha. They receive 1.5 million calls a year. thats 4109 a day and 171 an hour, thats an average of course.

    So if everyone stopped wasting there time with crap/crank/pissed calls they might be able to deal with the real ones. I am sure u have all heard of the story of the boy who called wolf.

    yeah they got it wromg and it is sad But but but, would she of still been there after 30 mins to get to Piha. I suspect not.

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    PS

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoon
    Ummm dude....sentencing has nothing to do with the Police.
    for those who are a bit slow on the uptake I am taking the Piss out of the know alls. Its called sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor
    for those who are a bit slow on the uptake I am taking the Piss out of the know alls. Its called sarcasm.
    I think, "You're a dick" sums it up nicely. Note the correct use of "You're" in this context, a conjunction of "you" and "are".

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    gee thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2
    I think, "You're a dick" sums it up nicely. Note the correct use of "You're" in this context, a conjunction of "you" and "are".
    yip i am being a dick, but i am not nearly a bigger dick as some of the dicks that post here

    but hopefully my message may get thru, but i doubt it as they are so one-eyed

    but if i can change the attitude of just one i have done my job

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    NZ sentencing sucks......

    "community service" should mean breaking stones and making roads with a ball&chain tied up to the leg.... a.k.a. "hard labour"
    That'll save some taxpayer's money aye?
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    Igor, Igor! IGOR!


    Get back tot he dungeon! Clean UP those friggen body parts!
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    Quote Originally Posted by igor
    for those who are a bit slow on the uptake I am taking the Piss out of the know alls. Its called sarcasm.
    Yeah, figured that on your opening sentence.

    but I am sure the perp understood what 'forbidden to drive' meant, this whole 'can't speak engrish' is a load of shit, just some shit they slung to obtain a get out of jail free card, and supply the herald with more crap to dump on the police.
    give me an hour in a semi dark room with a small portable generator with jumper cables, some of those little wooden kebab sticks, both of the Auckland yellow pages and a rubber hose, and I will have him reciting the English dictionary in no time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by igor
    wake up, all the Police bashers will tell ya if the cops had of spoken Mandarin or Cantonese or got a interpreter down then this would not have happened. Said Asain student would of understood fully he was not to drive and this boy would still be alive.
    Hehe ... I stand corrected All cops know ching-chong anyways as all the instructions for their radars are written innit ehh hur hur hur....get me another beer Jed!!!

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    [QUOTE=igor]since u guys like bagging the Poice so much, ya may as well blame them for this to. On a more serious note this SUCKS
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    what really sucks isn't the sentence but the guy who died sounded like a top dude.

    Quasi's idea on the other thread sound llike as very good idea, not that I condone this behaviour.
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    also of note in the Herald is abortions are up. not that i am a anti abortion crusader, but 3000 odd had by asians, not that I am anti asian

    but our dear government wants all these lovely students here helping the economy but they do appear to be VERY FU#kin immature for there age.

    A. Treating driving as a right (killing themselves and others)
    B. Xtortion tactics (appeared to dropped after a few decent sentences)
    C. Relationship failing (Killing the ex and the new Partner)

    Now don't get me wrong as I have met many cool asians but some need to be kept on a lead to control behaviour.

    to much money and freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by igor

    what really sucks isn't the sentence but the guy ...

    The NZ sentencing sucks....period.

    One of my staff got away with not paying his $3500 tickets. Guess who has to cop it? Me! for being his employer I have to do extra accounting and deduct (how much????) $60 PER WEEK from his pay so the ticket will be paid in about TWO YEARS! (so quick eh?) And if I'm one day late I will get prosecuted. Oh right....and I cannot change his position or payment if it would be because of this fine. I reckon they should knock on his door and sell one of his kidney instead!

    And you know how many thousands other cases where causing death gets you away with so-called community services.....that many people did not even complete!!!

    Sentencing sucks. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmoot
    The NZ sentencing sucks....period.

    And you know how many thousands other cases where causing death gets you away with so-called community services.....that many people did not even complete!!!

    Sentencing sucks. Period.
    yes but the poor judge has to treat every case individually.

    the funny thing is tthe police spend more hours investigating the matter than the said PERP gets for asentence

    of course the nice defence lawyer whom is getting legal aid does have to give acrosss the PERPs background circumstances, which usually go like this

    my client comes fro m a deprieved background and the reason for his offending is he didn't get fish & chips on a friday night like all those other Kiwi children. this has emotionally blah blah blah

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