Carnage Loop

[sAsLEX]

In many ways it is reminiscent of the romanticism of dying in combat. Nowadays we know that ain't pretty but it was seen as "oh so noble" in 1910. I don't really give a wet slap what the Kalamari Kid thinks, my only worry is that new people to biking and to the site might think he's some sort of cool bastard and think he has some useful advice.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est
Pro patria mori.

[Jantar]

... Knee down all 3 of the crash site corners for the fella. ....

I know the corners i am leaving alot in reserve.

...140 round the 55's tipped right over knee down wrapping around through the cliffs.....

I don't push it becasue the last thing i would ever want to do is take out the cross or something.

What is difference between Ironic and Moronic?

[Quasievil]

but if i go in a bike crash i want it to be down there.

or on the roads from auckland to kaiaua down the coast...between whitford and clevdon- kaiaua.

At least then ya knowi went with a fucking huge grin on my face.

SM

Funny thing is thats what Bruce said, however when we identified the body I didnt notice a grin.

[R6_kid:Me]

Being told i was leaving black lines out of corners was a pretty cool feeling, and the feeling of getting 'respect' was unbeatable... then I let it go to my head and put myself and my bike in a tree.

Missed hitting a tree head on by about 20cm - that would've surely put me in a wheel chair, the tree certainly didnt move when my bike hit it.

Slowed down quite a bit from then on, i've been back to Coro since, but respect it for what it is. The race track is at Taupo, not Thames.

Nothing beats riding with a whole lot in reserve, riding smoothly through the corners trying to link up all the lines for one fluid pass, and then arriving home in one piece without having to pull anyone out of a ditch.

[@mmie]

having known Bruce for a long time and ridden with him on many occasions he would have to rate as one of the worst riders I have ever known, he was crashing all the time, he was always in trouble with the cops and lastly he died riding and killed DSS3 by doing a dumshite wheelie into a corner.
I know as I was there watching him Knee on the ground and exiting on one wheel ..................... good rider NAH!

and for those that want more info (always keen to repeat for the bennifit of slowing some riders down) Check out this nice Coro Loop report

http://quasizxrquasimoto.spaces.live.com/

Shit bro that is...well what can you say...

I think a moments silence to reflect on those family/friends effected by this tragic accident.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........

Ride safe out there.

[ynot slow]

Shit bro that is...well what can you say...

I think a moments silence to reflect on those family/friends effected by this tragic accident.......................................... .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........

Ride safe out there.

Ditto there as well,how did you manage writing that Brett,so farkin sad,what more can be said.

[ynot slow]

Agreed. They are just as weak and make wet excuses. He also needs a good old kick up the arse. We don't want to share the public roads we enjoy so much with an idiot like that.

Not sure if skiddys folks are alive,but he could take them out whilst driving,how would he feel then,if they are on the road at the time he is on the loop,heaven help them travelling towards each other,come around a 35km corner,then see a bike doing 140km towards them, shortly to be their bonnet emblem.

[sugilite:Me]

It's out of repect for my fallen mate.

I know the corners i am leaving alot in reserve.

Cheers: skid

Your knee is on the deck, what exactly is it you have in reserve, your arse or your head?

As for the coro loop, yeah, I did the huge kb figure of eight coro loop ride in late 06, fantastic people, fantastic roads, BUT...traffic, traffic, traffic. That makes the road that much more dangerous, fuck up and there is a high chance you will fuck off, for ever.

[Sanx]

Are you for fukkin' real? Someone please tell me this is a pisstake or troll.....anybody?

Fella, nobody goes with a "fucking huge grin" on their face. You go in a world of pain and confusion and regret:
"Is that my mangled arm over there by that car? Fuck I can't breathe! Waddaya mean take it easy, I can't take it easy when my mouth keeps filling with blood?! Why are they looking at me like that? Is that my bike revving fit to burst, bouncing against the limiter? aaaah quiet, thank god, except for the lady screaming, I mean screaming at her kids to "stay in the fucking car!".....uurgh, I can feel the bones in my chest grating together....fuck it hurts, man...no I mean it really hurts like somebody is twisting a huge knife in my chest....funny, my shoulder doesn't hurt at all...I can feel Davo pressing his favourite tee shirt against the ragged stump where my arm used to be but that's about it....blood everywhere...is that all mine?....the poor bugger is crying...I want to thank him, tell him I'm sorry but I just can't seem to take a breathe....oh man I...just....can't...seem...to get...any...air...fading, feel like I'm falling all over again......voices......screaming......going....... .going......................"gone

SM, try holding half your mates face on as he's lying on the side of the road, try having to ride home when your broken mate has just been loaded into an ambulance (or worse, dead) and your whole body is still shaking no matter how many shuddering deep breathes you try and take, try telling him as he's lying there that everything's ok when you know damn well that the ambo's are 20 minutes away and there's already more blood than you've seen in your life leaking over the road. Try dialling a mobile phone to make that call to his missus when you can't stop shaking enough to read/jab the numbers not having a clue what to say and your mouth feels like the bottom of a parrots cage.

I wonder where your "fucking huge grin" would be then....I wonder if you'd be grinning if you were the one lying broken on the road......
I don't really wonder, 'cos I know for a fact you'd be crying and snivelling and praying/begging just like the rest of us and you'd do anything, absolutely anything at all if you could only turn back the clock.

But hey, you don't have to listen to people like me spruiking on, you can just keep riding as you are and find out for yourself.......

Slowpoke. Just to reinforce what others have said ... that post is one of the most staggeringly powerful and evocative pieces of writing I have seen in a very long time. Bling has been awarded but it hardly seems sufficient.

Mark. Is there any point in saying anything to you? Probably not ... I hope it doesn't happen any time soon but if it does, I think I can suggest a suitable inscription for the headstone. "Inevitable". Please, if not for yourself, then for the other poor bastards who are unwittingly sharing the roads with you: grow the fuck up and do it soon.

[Jiminy]

(...) but if i go in a bike crash i want it to be down there.

(...)

Sunny day just let her fly ...140 round the 55's tipped right over knee down wrapping around through the cliffs.....blimin heaven i tell ya!

(...)

then speed increases lol.

Fucking hell, this post scares the hell out of me. For fuck sake, what will happen the day I'll be on the other side of that 55 corner and SM does a little mistake? No, not 'lol'!

Never seen someone calling so loud for his own tragedy. Hope he doesn't take anyone else along.

Just a suggestion...if we all put SM on ignore, he would be denied an audience...

He's a fool. Ignore him.

Yeah, but there would still be some newcomers to think he is cool!

Fella, nobody goes with a "fucking huge grin" on their face.

http://quasizxrquasimoto.spaces.live.com/

+1. Scary, real scary.

However, I am concerned that those who understand those posts might not be the ones needing it the most.

[idleidolidyll]

The coro loop is a wonderful piece of road but, like many NZ roads, it'll bite you in the arse if you're complacent.

I've read here that some think they 'know' every corner and are therefore able to knee down everywhere etc.

Frankly that's bullshit. The Isle of Mann is about a quarter the length and even the most experienced racers say you can never really learn it completely. Joey Dunlop, THE most experienced rider on it was killed by it.

Roads change with temperature, moisture and use as well as the obvious stuff like road works and gravel etc. To think you 'know' the coro absolutely and can ride it fast with impunity, is to sign your own death warrant with no fixed date.

my 'stye' on the road is to go in less than hard unless i can see ALL the way around the corner and come out hard as long as i can see the road.

late braking stuff on our highways will look great until that oil slick, gravel, bump or wet patch catches you out half way in and you highside it.

save the 10 tenths for the racetrack and live to be an old rider

[jcupit69]

Amazing post by slowpoke, and blinged out accordingly.
I agree with many others that this should be manditory reading for all new bikers. I bet if they read this or showed some pics at the basic training there wouldnt be as many arse holes like skidmark around on the roads giving bikers a bad name.
and to skidmark: just cus you want to be a prick on the roads dont forget your putting the rest of us at risk. Its people like you that give bikers a bad reputation as organ doners and fukwitts when really most of us enjoy biking for what it is and respect ourselves and other road users your bike should stay in its box, by the sound of it its the best place for it for your safety and ours!!!

[Pussy]

Joey Dunlop, THE most experienced rider on it was killed by it.

Joey Dunlop wasn't killed at the Isle of Man

[MSTRS:Me]

However, I am concerned that those who understand those posts might not be the ones needing it the most.

Exactly. I also note that those most in need of an attitude adjustment refuse to check out the results in the morgue when offered the chance.
Easy to ignore words, harder to do so with a real live (sic) vision of mortality. ????

[idleidolidyll]

Joey Dunlop wasn't killed at the Isle of Man

i stand corrected: North West?

of course that doesn't change a thing, too many extremely experienced riders have been killed on that road and to say you can 'know' it completely is ridiculous.