Can someone explain torque to me?

[Ocean1]

it's what those who 'can't' do

Teach, dude, is the word you're groping for I believe.

[jonbuoy]

I think of torque as being how the bike "pulls" at the low/mid RPM range, and HP as top end near redline power. Hence why torquie bikes are nice on the road. Not that many sports bikes are lacking in midrange these days either. I think this has been proven several times - there was a shoot out in a magazine a while ago between the Triumph rocket 3 and a blade', even in top gear roll ons the blade kicked its arse as I recall.

[idleidolidyll]

Teach, dude, is the word you're groping for I believe.

that's sometimes true..............just like bike riding

[madandy]

And to add to all that: Torque is the grunt you feel that stretches your arms when you twist the throttle. High HP reflects an engines ability to continue making good torque at high RPM.

[Ocean1]

hell yes!
that's nearly as much as my yammy 1300 had.

on a bike under 180kg, that's great acceleration

'course, on say a buell, that acceleration only lasts for a few thousand revs and then you'll need to hook a new gear; the yammy was way wider

And weighed?

But you're right, that "top third" just ain't there on the Buell. I really don't care, I don't want to wring it out on the straights. A big slice of that torque's available from 2K through to 7K, far wider than the difference between ratios.

[idleidolidyll]

And weighed?

230kg the manual said less the bloody heavy mufflers that lasted 2000km before i wanted a nicer sound

my mate's 1200 buell could never keep up to it in a straight line drag but of course the buell would kick arse in a canyon (all other things being equal)

[*caution*]

Torque is actually a simpler concept than power i feel.

How much torque an engine has, its the amount of turning force it has available to turn the wheels, power is how quickly it can apply that force.

[martybabe]

OK, I think that about covers it.

To sum up torque is something to do with buckets,tree stumps,shovels and air pumps. Twisting pulling or pushing something with the aid of some horses.

oh and some technical jiggery pokery that's a bit magical. Hope that cleared it up for ya mate.

[Edbear]

... good torque, low weight and a great shape.

So that's where I'm going wrong...

...in reality those figuers are so close I doubt you'd notice much difference.

Perzackery!

OK, I think that about covers it.

To sum up torque is something to do with buckets,tree stumps,shovels and air pumps. Twisting pulling or pushing something with the aid of some horses.

oh and some technical jiggery pokery that's a bit magical. Hope that cleared it up for ya mate.

Got it in one!

[Bren]

Hey thanks for your help guys....green bling on the way for some of ya...

The 2 bikes that I mentioned the specs for were as follows
Bike 1: 34HP 40.68 NM @ 3200 RPM...Buell Blast
Bike 2: 31HP 45.5 NM @3400 RPM...Suzuki LS650 Savage

[NordieBoy]

Hey thanks for your help guys....green bling on the way for some of ya...

The 2 bikes that I mentioned the specs for were as follows
Bike 1: 34HP 40.68 NM @ 3200 RPM...Buell Blast
Bike 2: 31HP 45.5 NM @3400 RPM...Suzuki LS650 Savage

On performance they're about the same but the LS will run out of puff first but be better down low.

With those two it's really down to cruiser vs more sporty style and which floats your boat.

[Bren]

On performance they're about the same but the LS will run out of puff first but be better down low.

With those two it's really down to cruiser vs more sporty style and which floats your boat.

and the buell might get me into hog rallies...

[NordieBoy]

and the buell might get me into hog rallies...

Whereas the Savage may get you lynched

[Bren]

Whereas the Savage may get you lynched

....like a redneck at the Boston tea party???

[Ocean1]

and the buell might get me into hog rallies...

What do they cost dude?

Any more than 8 or 9K and I'd be looking at one of the XB9 variants. Far more capable donk, bugger all heavier and better suspenders.