Adventure Routes New Zealand Website

[NordieBoy]

Well after about 6 hours of fiddling it looks like you can't upload a gpx to a gps from a file.
You can if the gpx text is inline on the page.

[aftermethamphetamine]

You can if the gpx text is inline on the page.

Dump the contents of the file to a (hidden) text field and send that to the gps?

[NordieBoy]

Dump the contents of the file to a (hidden) text field and send that to the gps?

Yeah, the only easy(ish) way I can see is dynamically created page with the text read from a file.

[cooneyr]

Well after about 6 hours of fiddling it looks like you can't upload a gpx to a gps from a file.
You can if the gpx text is inline on the page.

Well that explains why the pages we were looking at (geocaching site) had data for a geocache.

Yeah, the only easy(ish) way I can see is dynamically created page with the text read from a file.

Hmmn - not sure if I can do this. I'm borrowing server space at the moment and I dont know if active scripting (if that is what it is called) is enabled.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Well that explains why the pages we were looking at (geocaching site) had data for a geocache.

I found someone who tried something similar and a garmin engineer said it wasn't possible with the current api and to put it inline.

I'd use Rivit and TCL on the server end and it should work no problem but it'd be almost impossible to get that to work on anything other than my server
PHP should do it as well.

[NordieBoy]

Just had a thought that it could be done using server side includes (I use them on the nmcc.org.nz site).
Will play tomorrow evening.

[cooneyr]

I found someone who tried something similar and a garmin engineer said it wasn't possible with the current api and to put it inline.

I'd use Rivit and TCL on the server end and it should work no problem but it'd be almost impossible to get that to work on anything other than my server
PHP should do it as well.

Just had a thought that it could be done using server side includes (I use them on the nmcc.org.nz site).
Will play tomorrow evening.

:spudwhat: OK. I get the putting it inline bit but the rest when straight over the top.

Can we use the code in the Garmin example page that puts the data inline? The lowest section of the page is a text box that gets filled with data when you choose from one of the examples (I can see the references to the example pages i.e. this line GPX - Routes). I figure that there should be a reference to "writeDataText" in one of the *.js files and the only one I can find it in is the GarminDeviceControlDemo.js file. Is this any help to you?

Cheers R

[cooneyr]

Few interesting developments.

Nordieboy is working hard on getting a page together that allows us to use the Garmin Communicator API Plug in. Basically what this means is that you can upload the route files to your GPSr directly from the web page - no more downloading the file to your PC and then uploading it to the GPS. It will hopefully be very simple to use. This feature is not finished yet but good progress has been made.

Transalper has figured out how to create a map layer the same as the autorouting map layers or topomaps. We are hopping that this proves easy to navigate with. If it does we will make a layer with all the adventure routes included. As I currently understand though this can only be used by those with mapping gps so the route files will still be available. Also the route files will be better for those with limited memory. We still need to do some testing of this to see how easy it is to use with a GPSr but fingers crossed.

Lastly, I contacted Andy Cockroft the author of the 4WD North Island: 102 Off Road Adventures. He has given permission for us to use the data on the CD that goes with the book on the web site. This is going to be a lot of work to figure out which routes are worth putting on the site and then doing it but it will mean lots more routes for the NI.

All good stuff

Cheers R

[Balrog]

...
Transalper has figured out how to create a map layer the same as the autorouting map layers or topomaps. We are hopping that this proves easy to navigate with. If it does we will make a layer with all the adventure routes included.
....

Hey guys

What software are you using to do that?

I was having a look on the NZ Open GPS project site and they seem to be using
GPSMapEdit for the routing & CGPSMapper to generate the IMG files.

GPSMapEdit was a reasonable price, but CGPSMapper looked expensive.

Cheers Jim

[marks]

PHP should do it as well.

the server that its currently hosted on is just a standard apache/php setup

[cooneyr]

Hey guys

What software are you using to do that?

I was having a look on the NZ Open GPS project site and they seem to be using
GPSMapEdit for the routing & CGPSMapper to generate the IMG files.

GPSMapEdit was a reasonable price, but CGPSMapper looked expensive.

Cheers Jim

Transalper found some free versions links of both - GPSMapEdit and cGPSMapper. He also found some other programmes - MapSetToolKit to send a map to mapsource and InnoSetup to create a self extracting exe.

the server that its currently hosted on is just a standard apache/php setup

Nordie has put together a page that I need to modify slightly and test on the server. It is using php, so from what you say it should hopefully be OK?

Cheers R

[Transalper]

Wasn't expecting to create auto routing when experimenting began, and still don't know if we'll achieve that with the free software as we might need to unlock the (shareware) programs to gain the needed features.
So far all I have done is taken tracklogs and route files and turned them in to road lines on a map that can be installed in to mapsource to load in to the gps with the rest of the maps you have.
The idea being that when you turn on my map it would kind of highlight the adventure tracks as if they were major highways on top of the other maps you already have to make them easier to see.
It was just a thought to enable us to have all routes highlighted without using any memory (the maps are stored on our huge data cards of course).
To make the routes easy to navigate you will still need to load the route files otherwise you would need to follow the new roads on the new map on the gps screen without any actual directions/instruction.

Today I am starting to read this... http://rotweilermaps.com/files/Rotwe...utingGuide.pdf
to play a bit more a the potential for auto routing, but I suspect to actually get it working (if even possible) you will need to turn off the other auto routing maps you have installed.

[Balrog]

... but I suspect to actually get it working (if even possible) you will need to turn off the other auto routing maps you have installed.

I was thinking about that.
The NZ Open GPS project is open source. You could use their
maps as the base and then add in the off road sections with the updated
auto routing tables.
Then you wouldn't need to unload the maps, you'd just install the updated
open source versions.

Big job though

[NordieBoy]

I was thinking about that.
The NZ Open GPS project is open source. You could use their
maps as the base and then add in the off road sections with the updated
auto routing tables.
Then you wouldn't need to unload the maps, you'd just install the updated
open source versions.

Big job though

The autorouting bit is the killer.

Otherwise it just needs to be a map overlay (like the Zenbu POI map) that if it's turned on will show the trails over top of the other maps you've got turned on.

To me, that's the cleanest way of doing it as it would still be a very small map Mb wise and could be easily incorporated into the NZ Open GPS project later.

[NordieBoy]

Hey guys

What software are you using to do that?

I was having a look on the NZ Open GPS project site and they seem to be using
GPSMapEdit for the routing & CGPSMapper to generate the IMG files.

GPSMapEdit was a reasonable price, but CGPSMapper looked expensive.

Cheers Jim

Get the free version to play with.
It jus dosn't let you do searching or autorouting.