Plans to reduce speed camera tollerance to 5 km/h and add demerit points!

[pritch]

I don't think anybody mentioned this yet, but one refinement they have in Oz is double demerit points on public holiday weekends. You can do your licence on one camera shot.

Coming soon to a road near you?

[thehollowmen]

Interesting...
Now.. what happens if you own a car that somebody else drives? they speed, you get a ticket AND loose your license?

Maybe we should all form a company and sell our bikes to ourselves .. 'yes your honour I'm not sure who was driving'

[DZL]

That scenario (ie getting pinged for the actions of a 3rd party driving ya vehicle in an 'offense' situation) is, er, nonsense ~ if the writer had ever been pinged (& CAREFULLY read thru the paperwork) it would have been noticed/known/understood that there is a clause whereby ya get to 'dob' whoever is driving when the 'offense' occurs if it aint the owner . .. .

BrooC (aka DZL)


PS (Speaking as one who HAS been pinged MANY times!)

I really do have VERY mixed feelings around this whole topic. . .on the one hand it shits me that the snakes cruise around in radarcars issuing 'easy tickets' for those clocked at supposedly OTT speeds (ie CRAP), but I also wonder howthefuck are 'they' supposed to overcome the effects of the dickheads we all see doing random maniac overtaking manouvres, & sitting FAR too close off our bumpers at 100k .. .. . AFAIC mebbe we ALL need to have the balls to do whatever we can to confront those dorks (ie, phone it in, or hit the brakes when they're too close at 105k etc, then stand up to them at the next set of lights) insteada just slagging the obvious villains (cops). .

Oh, & another thang, it is FAR too easy to slag the current gumment (whoever it is) for these things, & vote to turf them out, but what-the-hell 'new' gumment ya think is gonna be ANY different?
The Greens will say ooah ya dint orter be driving precious-petrol-powered thingies anywho, & the Nits will say ooah 'Uts the Ma-Ories', & the ACTers will say 'user pays', & Winnie will blame it on the rag-heads .. . try to see a bit beyond kneejerk reactivity guys!

. . .. & eye say just get out there & have ya fun & DONT get caught . .. . use radar. . .chose ya roads. . .ride a 'classic' (slow) bike .. . & dont 'blame' someone else when ya lose a round .. . stop getting all outa shape about it being somebuddy elses 'fault'.

[Wonko]

Ever notice how Mr Petters always has a tibbit of information that he drags out for months every election year. Wine box ring any bells? With the Iraqi information, why doesn't he just give all his information to the imigration department via the house for the publicity. By draging it out he just looks like a kid who doesn't want to share his toys to get his name out there for a few more votes.

Hollowman, you are then asked via letter who was driving at the time of the offence. IIRC if the owner cannot prove who was driving then they get fined(I could be wrong)

[Gremlin]

Ever notice how Mr Petters always has a tibbit of information that he drags out for months every election year. Wine box ring any bells? With the Iraqi information, why doesn't he just give all his information to the imigration department via the house for the publicity. By draging it out he just looks like a kid who doesn't want to share his toys to get his name out there for a few more votes.

Although I intensely dislike him, he is one wily campaigner. Every election he comes up with something.

Last time he was doing the rounds at asian community halls telling them he didn't say all those nasty things. Soon after the election he says all asians should go home.

[Marmoot]

Don't believe so. Rumour is they have wet nurses to read stuff out loud to them.

Even if this was posted in August 2003......but.....wet nurses, hmm....
preferably with legs that go on and on and on...

[Dafe]

Thats why they're called, Politicians!!!
No I won't vote Labour, coz I'm sick of the Asian Invasion, the selling of NZ land to offshore investors, the numerous new benefits for non workers, the expectation for Australia to provide our defence, the continuing brain drain, the lack of criminal punishment, lack of elderly support, the restructuring of the Police Force becoming revenue collectors, the ever weakening health system and declining education system.
Perhaps I am dillusional, or perhaps the person in the thread above voted for the alterations as listed above.
As least somebody got it right - No, I won't be voting labour.
They'll probably get in again though, cos anyone who is educated or has any idea about politics, has probably already left our shores.
My two best mates both finished their degrees here and are now both engineers in Australia, with no intention of returning to NZ, or paying their student debts.

I'd say it's right up there.

OT - Has anyone else noticed when someone revives an old thread some people feel the need to criticise the face (or at least point out that it's an old thread). Yet if someone posts a new thread on the same topic others point out that such a thread already exists and why aren't they posting in it. Been noticing it a bit and finding it amusing. Looks like a no win situation. Personally I'm all for posting in old threads as it opens up the old replys to members who may have not been round to read them the first time. That in turn saves people having to repeat themselves.



That funny I remember getting speeding tickets under National too. And if you think that ANY party is going to throw away all that revenue, you're dellusional.

Next you'll be believing that Winston Peters is an honest politian who never plays games during an election year in order to raise his profile and get >10% of the vote as he did the election before (and before that, etc).

[DZL]

Oh, really smart, 'bad shit' under labour so ya wont vote for em .. . & do ya seriously think that ANY of the other fuckwits will be any better? More likely they'll actually be WELL worse!
'Devil ya know' I say, at least until Rodney the dobber, Brash the (faceless menace?), Whinny the Poo, & Jeanette the longdropper have shown they have SOME level of competence!
Its FAR to easy to wreck what ya got before ya got a workable replacement sorted!
THINK about it!

BrooC

[idb]

Personally I'm all for posting in old threads as it opens up the old replys to members who may have not been round to read them the first time. That in turn saves people having to repeat themselves.

If people didn't repeat themselves though there'd be stuff all posts....

[idb]

I say if people didn't repeat themselves though there'd be stuff all posts....

[idb]

And furthermore if people didn't repeat themselves though there'd be stuff all posts....

[idb]

And as I was saying, if people............naahh!

[geoffm]

That scenario (ie getting pinged for the actions of a 3rd party driving ya vehicle in an 'offense' situation) is, er, nonsense ~ if the writer had ever been pinged (& CAREFULLY read thru the paperwork) it would have been noticed/known/understood that there is a clause whereby ya get to 'dob' whoever is driving when the 'offense' occurs if it aint the owner . .. .
.

Of course, if you don't know who was driving, then you are out of luck. Ditto if the boss says you were driving "because apprentices always speed, so it must have been you" then how do you prove otherwise.
The system of acusation and no proof required is a basic building block of all good police totalitarian states.

[John]

Blame the minorities that always seems to work ??...