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    Aprilia comments on Honda reliability

    From http://www.motorcyclists-online.com/...-on-track.html

    Chat to Piero Soatti, Aprilia Product development

    PS: One of the most important things that we do is the bench testing at the factory. Every new engine is run for 50.000 kilometres before being put into production. This is very important for reliability.

    TS: Have you got any examples of changes you have had to make after this reliability bench test?

    PS: Yes, many, but specific to the SL750 we had a problem with cooling the rear cylinder in the beginning. On the road tests this problem didn’t really show up correctly. But when the engine was stressed at high revs for a long time in the bench we had some engine seizures. These seizures were caused by water not circulating properly at the back of the rear cylinder-Causing it to overheat. We solved the problem by introducing a direct water line to the rear cylinder.

    50.000 kilometres is always our test as very few motorcycles actually do so many miles. But we once tried a Honda CBR1000RR engine on our bench and it never died! It was impossible to seize that engine under normal service circumstances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapf View Post
    ...50.000 kilometres is always our test as very few motorcycles actually do so many miles. ....
    Huh? They have to be delusioned. That is only 2 years normal riding.
    Time to ride

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapf View Post

    It was impossible to seize that engine under normal service circumstances.
    One mag tried to kill a bike, Kwak something rather I think it was.


    First they ran it sans water........ not much happened.

    So then they drained the oil as well and held it on the rev limiter..... its burnt out the exhaust and the fact the spark kept cutting out meant it started blowing the muffler apart....... but refill it with oil the next day and you could hardly tell it had been thrashed to within an inch of its life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    One mag tried to kill a bike, Kwak something rather I think it was.
    Did it have USD forks? Cos otherwise it was shit.
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    Bugger - my bike is approaching 50,000km - It's Italian - does that mean it's gonna shit itself and die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully View Post
    Did it have USD forks? Cos otherwise it was shit.
    Yeah, that joke isn't old at all . Got anything new?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Huh? They have to be delusioned. That is only 2 years normal riding.
    Average lifespan of a sportbike in California between showroom floor and write off is six to twelve weeks* - they wont have clocked up too many Kms

    * this is an "internet fact" seen on many sites but I have not been able to find any official certification.
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skelstar View Post
    Yeah, that joke isn't old at all . Got anything new?
    Nope. Nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    One mag tried to kill a bike, Kwak something rather I think it was.


    First they ran it sans water........ not much happened.

    So then they drained the oil as well and held it on the rev limiter..... its burnt out the exhaust and the fact the spark kept cutting out meant it started blowing the muffler apart....... but refill it with oil the next day and you could hardly tell it had been thrashed to within an inch of its life.
    Twas either Fast Bikes or Performance Bikes and it was a kawasaki 6000
    it's not a bad thing till you throw a KLR into the mix.
    those cheap ass bitches can do anything with ductape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapf View Post
    50.000 kilometres is always our test as very few motorcycles actually do so many miles. But we once tried a Honda CBR1000RR engine on our bench and it never died! It was impossible to seize that engine under normal service circumstances.
    Remember Toselands WSBK bike last year when he did almost an entire race with no water in it after an early crash (albeit a wet race)!

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    50.000
    note thats a . not a ,

    50.000 == 50
    50,000 == 50000

    Are they being stupidly accurate or dont they know the difference. That looks like 50 km to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dargor View Post
    note thats a . not a ,

    50.000 == 50
    50,000 == 50000

    Are they being stupidly accurate or dont they know the difference. That looks like 50 km to me.
    In Europe, they often change the two from how we do it. Drives me mental when I deal with European documents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Huh? They have to be delusioned. That is only 2 years normal riding.
    50k on a dyno is probably done continuously.

    You sir are a legend for riding 50k in two years without rest!

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    In some countries
    50.000,00 = 50 thousand
    whereas for us it would be
    50,000.00 = 50 thousand
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