Excluding based on sex...

[MadDuck]

And nothing wrong with that at all ... they just can't be chicks only rides ... all's sweet.

Ha....I think they just dont get it

[Trudes]

It is not so much i want to go on this one ride baddly, i want to go on rides with as many people as i can that will ride safely. I have found that a girl is a lot more likely to ride safely.... because that is the way they are...

And there in lies one of the reasons a lot of chicks like to do group rides with other chicks. Thanks.

[McDuck]

And there in lies one of the reasons a lot of chicks like to do group rides with other chicks. Thanks.

So wouldnt it be more to the point to say that anybody who want to come can but no dangerous riding will be tolerated?

[Slingshot]

If you have a problem with women only rides start organising men only rides. It's really not that much of a big deal, what are you missing out on??

The golf thing is different, I don't think it's fair that women get special treatment but the same goes for Maoris, homosexuals, the elderly, beneficiaries and pretty much every group in society. Either be bitter, or enjoy life.

[Grub]

OK, I'll bite. Do tell, why not? I'm not charging money, so how am I breaking the law?:

It's a moot point in that case anyway because nobody is really going to get their knickers in a knot about a private event but if men are excluded from a publicised event then that is against the Human Rights Act.

It's actually a horrid piece of legislation but the Wimmins Movement took militant action for over a decade to get it enacted ... and ironically now it is women who want to do gender-specific events.

You no longer see anything "men-only". Just a reminder of how abhorent the double-standards is, two years ago it was front page and lead story on the evening news that women were Outraged at the men's bunkroom at the Waikeremoana Fishing Club. The Human Rights Commissioner himself was called to account, comment and justify on this outrageous situation and to explain immediately what he was going to do about it.

Look below the surface and you found out that it was 12 bunks with a no-partitioned toilet in the corner. Not the sights and smells anyone should be exposed to! Right next to the 'mens' bunkroom was the family bunkroom with appropriate bedding and ablutions

Women got the legislation they asked for, it's not at all unreasonable to expect them to abide by it. And don't get me started on th "Configure Gym for Women"!

[McDuck]

If you have a problem with women only rides start organising men only rides. It's really not that much of a big deal, what are you missing out on??

The golf thing is different, I don't think it's fair that women get special treatment but the same goes for Maoris, homosexuals, the elderly, beneficiaries and pretty much every group in society. Either be bitter, or enjoy life.

but i am not going to organise a men only ride because i want to ride with as many different people as i can (that i trust can ride safely).


But if it is a ride as part of a girls event i dont have a problem, like the makeup idea said earlier in the thread.

[Trudes]

So wouldnt it be more to the point to say that anybody who want to come can but no dangerous riding will be tolerated?

haha, good luck with that!! We had a ride for newbies not so long ago, and admittedly, only 2 L platers turned up, but the point of the ride was meant to be slow and safe.... HA!!!! I saw some really good riding from folks who were told there was to be no "nonsense"! Funny how some people's riding gets very fast and competitive without meaning to.

[quallman1234]

haha, good luck with that!! We had a ride for newbies not so long ago, and admittedly, only 2 L platers turned up, but the point of the ride was meant to be slow and safe.... HA!!!! I saw some really good riding from folks who were told there was to be no "nonsense"! Funny how some people's riding gets very fast and competitive without meaning to.

As long as they are at the front and there's someone looking after the newbies at the back and a meeting point then whats the problem?

This happens all the time on the "Criusy" wednesday night ride.

[McDuck]

haha, good luck with that!! We had a ride for newbies not so long ago, and admittedly, only 2 L platers turned up, but the point of the ride was meant to be slow and safe.... HA!!!! I saw some really good riding from folks who were told there was to be no "nonsense"! Funny how some people's riding gets very fast and competitive without meaning to.

The trick is you have a very scary person incharge...

[MadDuck]

OK so maybe i am off...why do blokes riding find us as such a threat.

[Grub]

OK so maybe i am off...why do blokes riding find us as such a threat.

Why do women think of men as such a threat they have to exclude them?

[McDuck]

OK so maybe i am off...why do blokes riding find us as such a threat.

You dont get it, we do not see you as a threat and untill this chages you will have problems. We want to join in becasue these rides are fun controled safe enviroments.



or at least that is why i want to join in.

[Big Dave]

This thread is useless without pics

[Trudes]

I agree that some shit has been taken too far, the golf thing for instance, but it is probably retaliation for the years of women not even being allowed on the course (and until recently I believe, some golf courses still did this).
Anyway, it's bed time, work in the morning, night night people.

[Trudes]

As long as they are at the front and there's someone looking after the newbies at the back and a meeting point then whats the problem?

This happens all the time on the "Criusy" wednesday night ride.

The entire point of the ride was for newbies to learn from others....... not see them disappear into the distance, and everyone knew it. That's the point.