Excluding based on sex...

[Deano]

Everyone participating in this discussion cares. Some agree & others don't.

I think you're being pedantic - I don't care if chicks have their own trackday, organise their own rides, or choose to strap on a big one. I guess this does however mean that I disagree.

[007XX]

Fairy muff then.

I'd be all in favour of getting in the face of anyone who cut me up at a trackday. I'm not talking racing passes, here, either, even on the inside; I'm talking about riding a big bike in medium or slow group and cutting in front of people in a dangerous manner near the end of straights, and other such carryings on.

Some twat on a 10R with his missus on the back was doing just that in the medium group at the last MotoTT day. I was in two minds as to whether to have a word then, but I've decided that if I see him at the track again, I won't keep my mouth shut.

Yeah, I'm sure that the sort of twat you're talking about is going to be absolutely reduced to frightened jelly by my very impressive 5.7", 52 kilos worth of terrifying womanhood

Nah...I just ask hubby or the likes of DMNTD...a girl's got to know when to keep in the back ground and send the troops instead.

[jrandom]

I would think that you know me better than that mate. What do you think I did?

Went on strike?

... reduced to frightened jelly by my very impressive 5.7", 52 kilos worth of terrifying womanhood.

Well, you scare me...

Edit: And last time I checked, you were, in fact, taller than 5.7 inches.

[Deano]

I'd be all in favour of getting in the face of anyone who cut me up at a trackday.

"You don't want to go making any enemies round here"

M.S.

[007XX]

Went on strike?

Bwahahaha...nice one. But no, I'm afraid I am too bloody stubborn and opinionated to sit by and do nothing.

However, there are two different sets of rules for women and men when it comes to confrontations, unless both parties are of a reasonnably intelligent mentality.

When dealing with a man who thinks it is cool to do the sort of stunt we were referring to earlier, his one and only argument will generally be: I'm bigger than you, so what are you going to do about it?

I cut to the chase, and get someone bigger to deal with it, and the argument settles quicker.

If it is someone I can reason with (and would not consider physical superiority something to resort to), I will quite gladly go an calmly talk it out with him / her.

Well, you scare me...

Yeah right...Mind you, you'd be the second one saying that this week...what have I done?

[kiwifruit]

I like the idea,
lets do it girls!!

[cowboyz]

I don't know about the yamaha trackdays, but I was just told I couldn't take my Hornet on the track at a Suzuki trackday..... Honda riderclub trackdays are open to other makes.

yeah. ok I retract that. I do recall not being allowed to go to the zooki one. Wondering what your reaction was when you got told you were not allowed to go to the zooki trackday? Did you go "oh well, there is another one in a few months time. OR did you go "what a pain in the arse, it is a few months to the next one."

Hi Cowboyz...

No one is targeting you personally, but just trying to cater for a group of riders with particular self confidence and skill issues.

Oh and btw, Flame would never be intimidating on a track of newbie girls...she'd be smart enough to just be respectful and mindful of the people around her.

To sum up my point: A few bad eggs in your gender group is spoiling it for the rest of you lovely blokes.
It's sad and unfair, I agree...but there are plenty of track days out there that I don't see it should hurt you that much.

Hi 007XX

I dont take things personally unless the moon is in the 4th quarter and I havent had enough coffee for the day yet. Just thought I would put my views up on what I thought of woman only trackdays. You have put yours up. That is fine.

Oh, And I only pointed Flames name out because she is the only female racer that I know right now. Not suggesting at all that she would go round pissing people off at trackdays. But the question still hasnt been answered if she would be invited to a woman only trackday because she is quick. That was the overwhelming reason to have a woman only trackday after all - so less experienced riders do not feel intimiadated.

Ah, he's just pissed cos he got married not long ago, and his darling missus knows what he gets (got?) up to around a bunch of leather-clad wimmin...she has applied the RuleOfThumb

Hey! At least I dont get told off for the way I put the washing out! - yet.....

To make a point. If I txt/pm Trudes, elle, vicki whoever to go for a ride and they happen to be all chicks.... why would anyone care, how on earth is that sexist, they are my friends.

We no longer organise 'Chicks Only Rides" not after what happened last time, just seemed like a lot of fuss about nothing. We now have organised rides with friends.

road riding is fine. And it sounds alot better to go for a ride with a bunch of friends who happen to be all female than to have a female only ride. The whole notion of a female only ride (which seems to be missed) is one of two things.

1. There are no dangerous female riders out there. Therefore you can organise a ride based on gender and guarentee there will be no dangerous riding going on.

2. All females are so slow that they dont have the ability to intimate others.

which one is it now?

[AllanB]

Funny thread - what a interesting bunch of people we are.

Girls only track - day - go for it girls.

[steveb64]

I avoid the whole problem by just generally prefering my own company. I regularly have man only rides by myself.

...which leads to the question - "And man only sex by yourself too?"

[Trudes]

yeah. ok I retract that. I do recall not being allowed to go to the zooki one. Wondering what your reaction was when you got told you were not allowed to go to the zooki trackday? Did you go "oh well, there is another one in a few months time. OR did you go "what a pain in the arse, it is a few months to the next one."

The one I got dragged to with hubby, I thought, well that's a pity, especially as Honda let other makes on, oh well if I really want to go on I'll share the Gixer, but decided I was happy to watch my hubby have his fun and take photos.
I figure there are enough trackdays I could go to if I want to make the effort, so am not going to winge about not being able to ride my Honda at the Suzuki trackdays, but it does discourage me from going and then often hubby decides he doesn't want to go either if I don't go, but hey, that's his choice.

[Bonez]

Any chance of sniffing the bikes seats afterwards?

[jrandom]

the question still hasnt been answered if she would be invited to a woman only trackday because she is quick.

She's quick?

[MSTRS:Me]

Any chance of sniffing the bikes seats afterwards?

At a girls-only track day? I think you'll need to shave if you hope to fool the butch dykes on the gate

[Bonez]

At a girls-only track day? I think you'll need to shave if you hope to fool the butch dykes on the gate

Some will probably have just as much facial growth. Entry should be easy.

Been told I have the breasts of a 14 year old girl .........................

Coyboyz should be in too, as he's a big girl at heart .

[SixPackBack]

Segregation based on gender is about as distasteful to me as segregation based on colour. How many of us would be moved to action if they had a "white-only" day? It is divisive and seperatist, rather than unifying around a common factor - in this case, for example, we are all lovers of biking, and therefore equal in biker law. The differences between us are there to be enjoyed, not to divide us. We all gotta learn to get along together. I'm so burnt out on gender wars.

We had the flame war to end them all over this topic sometime ago now, segregation was the heart of the matter and argued until people cried [literally].

Its not Martin Luther King day, the Black Panthers 'aint parading on high. 'Tis in fact just a trackday. Afterwards the boys can give cheesy grins at the thrills [and hopefully not] spills, welcome the girls back to the pitts and life will go on.

Enjoy the day Girls, trackdays are fucken' awsome.