Suggestions for speed limit enforcement

[doc]

cmon guys and girls really what we should do is just obey the advertising, slow down be careful out there. Once they have control over everything there is no money made out o speeding law enforcement Traffic enforcement will only be able make revenue out of failing to indicate ,not stopping completely, intending to go faster or excessive atempt at displaying speed hienious crimes , off siding public in general .they get made redundant We all drive Ladas or step thru fifties We then fight off the Politically corect and you will not be able to go faster than a larger capacity bike if its in front type bullshit, and we can go like fuck. Seems logical to me unless you want to take it further and we turn the place into another Falluja which can also offer a lot chances to redeme those demerit points . Does the SIS monitor this site or just watch it with a search engine for subversiveness. Just cool down summer is here more good riding days. Stuff them. Do your own thing and pay the consequences went they think you have had enough. You are never going to win . Killing your cerebral defeicent offspring is another matter not revenue in that not enough of it going on.

[manuboy]

Oh, fuxache, guys. This thread is a TROLL, mmm kay? Get with the program.

Traffic regulation and enforcement ideas really have been well-thrashed in other places on the forum (to the point where one might indeed use the phrase 'ad nauseAm'.

*Those* threads are where you should put all your good ideas.

You wanna troll JRandom?

* Off Topic *

I suggest an IQ ceiling should be imposed on all members of this forum. The select few of you (you know who you are) who insist on making valid points, pointing out others foibles and inaccuracies, using large words - or pharking latin (wtf???), piss off... the rest of us would like to talk complete shit in peace.

[StoneChucker]

I suggest an IQ ceiling should be imposed on all members of this forum. The select few of you (you know who you are) who insist on making valid points, pointing out others foibles and inaccuracies, using large words - or pharking latin (wtf???), piss off... the rest of us would like to talk complete shit in peace.

Ahh, one of my "people" Thought I was the only one

[Blakamin]

Ahh, one of my "people" Thought I was the only one

how could that be???
I didnt make whoredom by being relevent!

that must mean theres 3 of us

[scumdog]

i am a firm believer in this, however... it must be only on state highways and only avalible to people who can prove that the and their vehicle are worthy of higher speeds.
i would propose this:
a 4th licence that could follow these guide lines:
A) be over 25.
B) have had no driving convictions (not tickets, like DIC and dangerous driving) in 3 years
C) require a course to be taken, through study and through practicle track oriented training. (ie govt sponsord track day!).
D) belong to a car club and attend track days and other such meetings (to make sure your driving is always being tested).

for the vehicle:
for bikes this maybe hard, but for a cage it should just be subjected to a higher form (say more anal) of warrent of fitness. That mainly focusus on brakes, stearing, handling and body structure.
but most of all these higher spec cars must be no older that say 3 or 4 years.

my idea is that obviouly speed dosn't kill, it's the idiot who thinks its ok to drive like a nut in the wrong situation. Hence why i propose a 4th licence, to educate joe public on how to drive defencively but efficiantly.

this is just my proposal, its open to your comments, jeers or support.

"course these drivers you mentioned would have to drive cars painted in bright colours and have flashing lights so the drivers without the special licence would know that you were 'special' and were allowed to travel faster than them and not to change lanes, pull out of driveways, overtake or call *555 etc when you were around.?

[scumdog]

I have a cunning plan.

1. Make cars intrinsically unsafe:
-- instead of nice soft absorbing airbags, a dirty great jagged spike that comes flying out of the dash.
-- a legal requirement to have at least two unbalanced tyres on a vehicle.
-- a legal requirement for all vehicles to be fitted with non-power-assisted drum brakes.
-- seat belts to comprise of a single strand of embryotomy wire, instead of webbing.
-- all headlights to comprise low-beam only bulbs not exceeding 15W output.
-- no windscreens to be fitted to vehicles.

2. Encourage drivers to take stupid risks:
-- remove entirely all speed limits and warning signs.
-- remove median and any other form of impact barriers.
-- make driving on the left optional.
-- offer cash prizes for the best video evidence of spectacular motor vehicle stupidity directly causing death.

3. Remove ACC and health insurance payouts for people injured in motor accidents.

4. Go on a leisurely overseas holiday for a year.

Hey, NOW you're talking!!!

[spudchucka]

Johnboy: That I have suggested so many times here in this forum but I was laughed at.....
I call it "high speed endorsement"
Some sort of Special License (license to speed?)
Very good idea, right?
Subject the driver to rigorous police driver training too if need be

I know I want one

Just how would you propose the police could differentiate between an endorsed speeder and a non-endorsed one? The only way is to stop the driver and check the licence, you can't assume the registered owner of the vehicle is the actual driver.

[ZorsT]

You guyes all have it wrong, the major factor no-one has mentioned yet is the roads. it would be interesting to see some accident Statistics, to see what percentage are from head on collisions. In canada (well Alberta anyway) all the major roads are two lane each way, divided and perfectly straight. We saw a sign for a corner ONCE.... it wouldn't of even got a sign in NZ.
Speed limit =120kph driving is so easy, that one can easily do a 10 hour day. Very safe as there is no stress, if you want to pass, you just pull into the other lane, and pass, and the traffic going the other way is about 30m away from you, so head on collisions are not likely.


The police there, dont pull people over until they are going 135, even then they usually dont get a ticket (my uncle is a cop) but we couldn't have that here..... how could the country run without our "fun-tax?"

[scumdog]

You guyes all have it wrong, the major factor no-one has mentioned yet is the roads. it would be interesting to see some accident Statistics, to see what percentage are from head on collisions. In canada (well Alberta anyway) all the major roads are two lane each way, divided and perfectly straight. We saw a sign for a corner ONCE.... it wouldn't of even got a sign in NZ.
Speed limit =120kph driving is so easy, that one can easily do a 10 hour day. Very safe as there is no stress, if you want to pass, you just pull into the other lane, and pass, and the traffic going the other way is about 30m away from you, so head on collisions are not likely.


The police there, dont pull people over until they are going 135, even then they usually dont get a ticket (my uncle is a cop) but we couldn't have that here..... how could the country run without our "fun-tax?"

We will have rules like that - when we get roads like that! And we won't get that as long as we have so many leeches relying on the taxes that COULD be used to improve the roads

[avgas]

A) be over 25.

for the vehicle:
for bikes this maybe hard, but for a cage it should just be subjected to a higher form (say more anal) of warrent of fitness. That mainly focusus on brakes, stearing, handling and body structure.
but most of all these higher spec cars must be no older that say 3 or 4 years.

Im going to jeer, im not over 25, but i have been riding religeously for a damn long time, i have out run the cops on occasion, and had accidents. Infact i have compressed as much as i can into my 10 or so years riding as possible.
Ive done the Cold kiwi all the time, owned 2stroke, owned dogs-of-a-bike, ridin as a form of transport, ridin every bike to see a top speed in the middle of nights, tourered with the misses, raced, dropped, dropped more, tried stutns, ridin cafe racer style, ridin cruiser style, Club rides, ridin naked...basically if you have heard a 'biker story', there may be a picture of me attempting it. Im at the same riding level as most advanced riders more than twice my age now (note i say most, not all, im not that cocky). But yet some hobbo who rides a jawa is now better than me

Also in reference to the car thing - is it the gun or the owner that shoots people dead. Most new cars are designed with safety to pedestrians in mind (well ok not very well but they do, do it). But people will still drive badly, just the same as people (not kids) fuck up on bikes.

PS: the only reason i ride a 400 is cos thats all i could swap my car for - but its ok, all derestricted, tuned and capable of 230+.

[MikeL]

Not quite the reaction I was expecting. C'est la vie.

It was a slow day at work, that's all...

[ZorsT]

We will have rules like that - when we get roads like that! And we won't get that as long as we have so many leeches relying on the taxes that COULD be used to improve the roads

good point, and fair enough... Where does all that money go anyway?

I also heard somewhere (i dunno how true it is) that if the police pull you over, and you were speeding, they are obliged to give you a ticket, is this true? or is there still some justice in this world?

[SPman]

I have a cunning plan.

1. Make cars intrinsically unsafe:
-- instead of nice soft absorbing airbags, a dirty great jagged spike that comes flying out of the dash.
-- a legal requirement to have at least two unbalanced tyres on a vehicle.
-- a legal requirement for all vehicles to be fitted with non-power-assisted drum brakes.
-- seat belts to comprise of a single strand of embryotomy wire, instead of webbing.
-- all headlights to comprise low-beam only bulbs not exceeding 15W output.
-- no windscreens to be fitted to vehicles.

2. Encourage drivers to take stupid risks:
-- remove entirely all speed limits and warning signs.
-- remove median and any other form of impact barriers.
-- make driving on the left optional.
-- offer cash prizes for the best video evidence of spectacular motor vehicle stupidity directly causing death.

.

Aren't most of those things in force already???

[cycosis]

Why not increase the open road speed limit. Say to 120km/h? And, if it's a sunny Sat/Sun, and you have a fast bike, make the Autobahn rules apply

HaaHaHA I gree,Autobahn everywere 24/7.Pull ova and fine the ones doin unda 100

[JohnBoy]

Just how would you propose the police could differentiate between an endorsed speeder and a non-endorsed one?

a simple placard on your reg plate, maybe someting similar to an L plate or even different coloured number plates (ie red).

my intention would be (like its really gonna happen!) would be that this right to drive faster would only apply if the approved vehicle was driving by the licence holder. but i see what you mean, it would be hard to enforce.