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    Women - the ongoing saga of finding a bike to fit.

    Some of you will have had the frustrating experience of trying to find the right sized bike. And when you're female, often you have to also take in to account upper body strength to keep the damned thing vertical.

    After going from a virago to a SV650 and dropping the friggin thing multiple times (inexperience and a slightly high C of G), I then got a tiny, tiny Honda NT650 (see profile pic) and have done about 10,000 very happy and confident km on that in the past year. So that's my bike history of the last three years.

    I had assumed I would never be able to ride a "big" bike because the sheer physical size of them would always be too much.

    Ex in Brisbane now has a 1999 BMW R1100rs which very cleverly has provision for multiple seat heights, 820mm down to 780mm. And the lower seat was just right for me at a snip under 5ft7. To cut a long story short, I spent seven hours (450 km) on Saturday riding the RS all throught the Sunshine Coast hinterland, which is pretty much exactly the same topography as Taranaki. So some tight twisties and a few saddles, but mainly really pleasant rolling bike roads. Heavily trafficked in places of course, it's the equivalent of the Wairarapa - ie playground of the Wgtn middleclasses.

    So I got to do lots of overtaking, a couple of emergency braking manouvers as soccer mums did their usual "I'm bigger than you" u-turns, and practised crawling through touristy villages at walking pace for a couple of km while soccer mums (and dads) decided to reverse in to parking spaces half a km back etc, etc.

    Not once did I have an "oh shit, I'm dropping it" moment on this bike, despite it being 45kg heavier than mine (about 240kg wet weight I think) and physically probably about 25% bigger. This included several hill starts at extreme angles (Maleny for those who know that area) and plenty of low speed manouvering in sloping car parks (coffee time again, and again, and again) Of course thanks to the shaft drive, the BMs have a low C of G, but even so, when I first got my full licence Graeme had an 04 R1150 RS, (same size as the 1100rs) and it felt as big as the Titanic for me to sit on.

    The point of this long ramble is, for women like me who have been "over horsed" on bikes early on in the piece and lost confidence and assumed they would always be stuck with physically tiny bikes - don't underestimate how much some good road miles and the right seat height will open up your choice of bikes.

    I now have a whole range of bikes to choose from that I previously would not have bothered with because on paper the weight would have seemed too much. Now (if I had the money) I'd go out and buy a R1100RS or S tomorrow, and I'd be test riding quite a few others as well.

    So for those of you who have been frustrated in the past with bike sizes, there are plenty of options out there if you work hard at your skills and get the right bike as an intermediate, confidence and skills building step. You won't be stuck on tiny bikes forever, just get out there, get your miles up and don't forget to keep asking questions and learning when you come across someone who's style of riding you trust.

    Now I'm off to buy a lotto ticket. Or if anyone has a spare 10 grand, I'll be very happy to take that off your hands for free . . .
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    Brilliant advice... Cheers for that. I don't always wanna be stuck on a 250cc, so it's good to know from someone the same size (& gender! Sorry guys ) who's done it before themselves that I can get much bigger bikes than that once I've got the experience up.
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    Geez mate your not only out of the kitchen ,but the bloody country as well.

    Agree with your verdict of Taranaki roads,good when no cowshit on them.

    Have to agree with you on bike heights though,a mate of mine had a gsx750 twin shock model 20 yrs ago,he chopped about 50 mm from seat so he could put both feet down,and is about 5'4" or so,was happy with it then,he also sat on my bike when it was introduced to him,and he thought it wasn't bad height wise.

    I tried a bandit 1200 for size and can get 1 foot down ok,both at a stretch,so it's not a female thing if short at all,maybe strength is a problem,but once riding you are ok.

    The choice is out there,size wise, but at what price your budget?
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    You getting back with the ex so you can ride that bike more then?
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    Thanks for the write up. It certainly is good to know that there are options out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merv View Post
    You getting back with the ex so you can ride that bike more then?
    Absolutely, as soon as he moves from the arsehole of the universe also known as Brisbane, and he would let me have the bike so he could get an R1100s . . . geez I loathe Brisbane with a passion. It ranks level with Wainuiomata on my list of nasty places to live.

    Yes, I hate it that much.
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    So he's more of an "on-hold" than an "ex" then?

    As for Brissie I've just been over there and for me I enjoy every minute of being there - except for the humidity perhaps.
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    good write-up!
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    Thanks for the encouragment mate! Us gurls need to learn what fits and what does not. I am delighted with my "little bike". I have not actually measured the seat height but it is perfect for my lofty 5'2 and a tiny bit".

    Problems really kick in for us vertically challenged riders, I have had the humilliating, and very funny experience of sitting on a rather HUGE V-Rod, and being delighted that my feet were flat on the deck, only to find I cant reach the pegs

    At "a snip under 5ft7" your optons are much bigger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    I have had the humilliating, and very funny experience of sitting on a rather HUGE V-Rod, and being delighted that my feet were flat on the deck, only to find I cant reach the pegs


    Oh yes, I can imagine it right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post


    Oh yes, I can imagine it right now...
    I would call you a rude name, but I would get infracted...
    Ooops I mean I am far too nice...

    It was funny though, DMNTD rode this shining chrome covered beast down to a little do we had. That should have been the biggest giggle of the night, but noooooooo... I have to have a little sit on, and stand it up, turn. Thank goodness the "blokes that are my friends" were there as catchers/laughers because there was but no way my feet would reach, they did suggest wooden blocks though teh bastards!
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    Quote Originally Posted by janno View Post
    Some of you will have had the frustrating experience of trying to find the right sized bike. And when you're female, often you have to also take in to account upper body strength to keep the damned thing vertical.
    Sorry Janno but I think this is a myth and this kind of thought process puts doubt in women's mind's as to what size bike they can actually ride. Handling/riding/controlling any bike has nothing to do with upper body strength, weight etc. and everything to do with balance.


    Quote Originally Posted by janno View Post
    The point of this long ramble is, for women like me who have been "over horsed" on bikes early on in the piece and lost confidence and assumed they would always be stuck with physically tiny bikes - don't underestimate how much some good road miles and the right seat height will open up your choice of bikes.
    Once again seat height doesn't have to restrict you either. If you can get one foot tippy toe on the ground, it's easy to hop off and move the bike around by walking next to it. Balance! As long as you can reach the pegs there's no reason you cant ride it.

    Quote Originally Posted by janno View Post
    Now I'm off to buy a lotto ticket. Or if anyone has a spare 10 grand, I'll be very happy to take that off your hands for free . . .
    I get tired of the "ducks disease" threads and wimen complaining about seat height. Hell I'm only 5'6, weigh fuk all and would ride any bike of any size and enjoy the experience! Seat height and body strength is an excuse and a cop out. It's all to do with balance and technique.


    Oh and good luck with the lotto!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goblin View Post
    Hell I'm only 5'6, weight fuk all and would ride any bike of any size and enjoy the experience!
    Right, that's it, missy, you're riding Betty next chance I get to put you on her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Right, that's it, missy, you're riding Betty next chance I get to put you on her.

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