Sellers' tricks...Tips for buyers

[heathen]

I thought it might be an idea to start a thread to help new buyers with tips on things to look for, or look out for when looking to buy a new bike.

I'll start the ball rolling with this pic of a speedo that has been "adjusted"...the pic is from an imported bike currently for sale on Tardeme...... and dont think that digital speedo's are tamper proof either, they can be modified in bikes & cars as well, though it is harder to do and spot.

[Drew]

Misaligned odometer numbers, DO NOT mean a speedo has definately been fucked with.

Bikes particularly bounce and vibrate a lot, and they are only gear driven.

Get educated yourself, before you start potentially costing others money!!!

This was the toung bitten reply, I get exceptionally pissed off with this sort of stupid statement.

[jrandom]

Misaligned odometer numbers, DO NOT mean a speedo has definately been fucked with.

So, dude, as you were saying earlier... only 26951km on the clock, and you had it serviced regularly?

I was worried for a bit, there, but you've set my mind at rest. I'll pop round with the cash later on.

[bimotabob]

Hi

I have pulled quite a few dashes out of Jap import cars that were tampered with.
A lot had numbers that were misalighned because the Japs often damaged
the speedo internally when they levered the shaft out.
They also used to paint the first number black if it was over a hunderd thou.
I guess bikes could be done - at least the ones without crimped lids.

I bit of useless info:
Some Honda cars had screws you had to remove to get the speedo that went through the fuel/temp gauge windings - the "imported fault" was the giveaway!

Cheers
Jason

[heathen]

Hmmmm, I seem to have hit a nerve, I take it you have something to do with selling imports???
Quite right!, misaligned numbers alone do not suggest a modded speedo, but add that to a bike with only 26k on the clock and the scratched facia screws and theres a 95% change it has been "adjusted".
So May I suggest that YOU get fuggin educated!!!

[jrandom]

May I suggest that YOU get fuggin educated!!!

Drew can't afford it; he spent his trust fund on crack.

[Hitcher]

I can't see any "scratched fascia screws". Is that because I'm old and blind?

[Mr. Peanut]

I ignore Km anyway. Condition is king.

[inlinefour]

I can't see any "scratched fascia screws". Is that because I'm old and blind?

I suspect it all boils down to the fact that you don't ride shitters. Second hand bikes allways has a risk involved. Rather than putting too much emphasis on the odometer, I would suggest a good going over the running gear of the bike. Checking for wear and non original parts can also suggest that the use the bike has had might not match the number on the odo. However a new bike enthuiast might not be able to pick up on this. Best advice is to take someone who knows a fair bit about bikes with you. This does not include your best mate because he thinks he in a knowitall. I used to take the old buggers with me when I was a young fella as I could not remember them not having a bike and I'd seen alot of the work they had done to bikes. Having someone who is handy at restoring and/or rebuilding bikes is a go. Otherwise just buy new, might be cheaper in the long run...

[FROSTY:Me]

Heathen--Have you ever looked inside a bike speedo??

[heathen]

Hi Frosty, I have over the years had a look into both analogue and digital speedo's, though mainly in terms of e2prom and PIC reprogramming.
If it can be manufactured it can be disassembled and it's surprising what some will do when moneys involved...
Anyhoooo, i thought a thread to help out new bike buyers might be helpful, so any one got a tip or two instead of questioning my qualifications??..

[Drew]

Hi Frosty, I have over the years had a look into both analogue and digital speedo's, though mainly in terms of e2prom and PIC reprogramming.
If it can be manufactured it can be disassembled and it's surprising what some will do when moneys involved...
Anyhoooo, i thought a thread to help out new bike buyers might be helpful, so any one got a tip or two instead of questioning my qualifications??..

I dont question your qualifications, it's the generalisation that pisses me off ya tool!!!

A mate of mine was recently selling the mintest GSXR1100 I've ever seen, and it was bought up that the speedo wasn't perfectly in line. I would stake my life that the k's are real, and yet you imply it should be stayed away from.

Here's a friggin tip for ya, kill yourself, the rest of us will have more air, more space to move, and less of a que at the supermarket.

[Steam]

I thought it might be an idea to start a thread to help new buyers with tips on things to look for, or look out for when looking to buy a new bike

We already have a good thread in Online Trading with more useful suggestions than yours thanks.

[Mr. Peanut]

I'm going to follow Heathens advice to the T.

Just to spite y'all

[heathen]

Here's a friggin tip for ya, kill yourself, the rest of us will have more air, more space to move, and less of a que at the supermarket.

We already have a good thread in Online Trading with more useful suggestions than yours thanks.

Arn't you little boys clever,..... but be carefull!!!! Don't lets your mums catch you playing on her computer you naughty little monkeys..

My Bad!!! Where's the adult's forums around here?