Evidence against USD forks

**Morcs** · 29th February 2008, 15:40

Originally Posted by skidMark

Well RVF has Carbs with flat sided carb sliders (not flat carbs)

And USD's....

So nya nya

Dont get me started on RVFs. We all know I am the authority on them.

Originally Posted by steveb64

Bugger. Oh well - at least you have half the bits you need!

It's better to replace yer pads if they've been oil soaked - and new brake fluid NEVER hurts!

You going to fix your forks yourself? ...if you are, then get a Haynes (www.haynes.co.uk) manual - I had one when I stripped the USD's apart on my Ducati - brilliant manual, and even gave a template/instructions on how to build a couple of 'special' tools to get the forks apart!

Yeah I grabbed some pads and seals already.

Gonna drop in to treads first thing sunday morning and ask Mike to do it. He will be stoked.

Dont have the tools at home to do works, or the workspace (no bench)

**Morcs** · 29th February 2008, 15:46

Originally Posted by n0regret5

cantilever?
heres a shock..the cantilever is the same as a girder is the same as a hossack is the same as a duolever..ok the duolever is the odd one out cos its still running a set of forks..
why not go for the ultimate in handling options? though apparently it reduces your 'feel' for the road;

I rode an Italjet Dragster 180 scooter a few times which had a similar setup, which then was linked to a spring running through the centre of the chassis.

Found it really wierd as the front never dropped under braking. Combined with a 10'' front wheel (as opposed to 13'' rear) and a tiny disk with virtually no front braking, it was pretty shit.

**n0regret5** · 29th February 2008, 15:52

yeh i remember those babies..they were a good idea like the suspension on the back of my bike. 'innovative' is the word they use, i choose..'late-night-kareoke-with-sake-shooters-off-a-young-nubile-girl-and-omigod-i've-got-an-idea'..

the tesi is supposed to handle really well, and i met a guy a wee while back who had converted his zzr1100 after reading tony foales design book, absolutely loved the way he could run through corners on such a fatass bike.

**steveb64** · 29th February 2008, 16:03

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Short version.I fucked up and now a suspension expert has the forks set to a reasonable baseline for me to start from.
I really want to give the final chapter to this sorry tale but untill I can ride the breast again I cant

?!

Now that little typo REALLY could lead to some fun...

Oh - hang on - didn't you say summat about it being pink? Not nipple pink? Errr...

**zxcvbnm** · 29th February 2008, 16:04

The only advantage USD have over RWU is the bigger tube for the triple clamps to hold on to and being bigger at the point of most leverage and controlling flex with the dia of the tube.

I think what made them work better was that that they changed to cartridge forks at the same time. USD was just a way to sell the added cost of the cartridge fork.

**skidMark** · 29th February 2008, 16:28

Originally Posted by westie

I believe BTF forks should be employed.

Really if you weren't trying to do wheelies all the time MORCS then the forks would probably be ok.

On another note, if you wait long enough then the fork oil drains out and eventually its all gone.(must get around to replacing my fork seals, but they're RWU forks so whats the point!)

Yeah he just put one down pretty hard.

Hes got the seals and pads now, just hasn't fitted em.

**MVnut** · 29th February 2008, 20:10

Surely this is a conspiracy to lull Skid into a false sense of security.

**cowpoos** · 29th February 2008, 20:46

Oh for fuck sake...both types have virtues...ut it sounds like a whole lot of you are talk through a whole in your arses...frosty you sad tale of a shitty handling bike isn't relivent to this thread either... people go have a good read up on the suspension and chasiss forum...theres heaps of relivent and good info on there...

**homer** · 29th February 2008, 20:50

Originally Posted by Mikkel

True USD fork seals are more vulnerable. However, if you take good care of your bike the advantages should outweigh the disadvantages - that being said, there's a lot of wank going on about this subject!

On RWU forks you have to remove bugs on the forkarms before they dry and become hard - otherwise that can fuck the seals as well.

On USD forks the front mud guard usually provide substantial protection against the evils of the road!

On RWU forks would you just have the shock protectors
for bugs and stone chip

**FROSTY:Me** · 29th February 2008, 20:51

chill poos -

**McJim** · 29th February 2008, 20:56

Originally Posted by cowpoos

Oh for fuck sake...both types have virtues...ut it sounds like a whole lot of you are talk through a whole in your arses...frosty you sad tale of a shitty handling bike isn't relivent to this thread either... people go have a good read up on the suspension and chasiss forum...theres heaps of relivent and good info on there...

Ach everyone's takin' the piss fella. Anyway when you take USD forks to the UK they end up being RWU (Right Way Up) forks don't they? And when a set of USD forks on the front of a Daytona comes over from UK they und up RWU too!