Cheesecutters, that bad?

**carver** · 3rd March 2008, 14:28

are cheesecutters really that bad?
no 8 wire fences that line just about every country road seem just as lethal, with their big strainer posts.
and what can be done about them.
i remember seeing a RSV-R that had gone through one, the rider was dead.
the thing is if you run wide into one, your going to get hurt.
And cheesecutters are on straight roads! (mainly)

**Katman** · 3rd March 2008, 14:32

Originally Posted by carver

are cheesecutters really that bad?
no 8 wire fences that line just about every country road seem just as lethal, with their big strainer posts.
and what can be done about them.
i remember seeing a RSV-R that had gone through one, the rider was dead.
the thing is if you run wide into one, your going to get hurt.
And cheesecutters are on straight roads! (mainly)

Not the first time it has been pointed out. 'Twill fall on deaf ears I'm afraid.

**Sidewinder** · 3rd March 2008, 14:37

Originally Posted by carver

are cheesecutters really that bad?
no 8 wire fences that line just about every country road seem just as lethal, with their big strainer posts.
and what can be done about them.
i remember seeing a RSV-R that had gone through one, the rider was dead.
the thing is if you run wide into one, your going to get hurt.
And cheesecutters are on straight roads! (mainly)

i totaly agree with you there hun.
and what about barbed wire and deer fences?

**Disco Dan** · 3rd March 2008, 14:38

Originally Posted by carver

are cheesecutters really that bad?
no 8 wire fences that line just about every country road seem just as lethal, with their big strainer posts.
and what can be done about them.
i remember seeing a RSV-R that had gone through one, the rider was dead.
the thing is if you run wide into one, your going to get hurt.
And cheesecutters are on straight roads! (mainly)

Better get yourself one of these then so you feel safe.

Either that or we start a concentrated leaflet campaign and get farmers to replace their wire with 'break away' string instead. I'm sure the cows will be supportive.

While your at it there is a chip out of the curb near me, could rip an arm off if some poor sod slid along it and hit that.

Seriously - I understand where your coming from, but to be devils advocate - you really cant make the safety bubble stretch to cover the country... It's around you and thats it. I quite like it that way... doesn't mean I did not sign the petition though because I did.

**swbarnett** · 4th March 2008, 01:33

The main problem that I see with cheese cutters is their intent. They are supposed to be a safety device and yet they're badly installed, won't stop a truck (or even a car sometimes) and kill motorcyclists.

Farm fences are not supposed to improve safety, there set back from the road and you never see one run along the centre of a two lane road or right on the edge of your lane.

In short, farmers aren't telling us that we're second class road users and our lives are worthless, Transit is.

**White trash** · 4th March 2008, 04:29

I've thrown myself through a farmers fence at 200+kph and survived. The wire snapped. Wouldn't want to test the breaking point of a cheesecutter wire with a human body.

**DEATH_INC.** · 4th March 2008, 04:34

Same, but not that fast. Been through a fence....but not planning on trying a cutter anytime soon...

**carver** · 4th March 2008, 09:07

i see, thats impressive that some of you have been through farmers fences at such speed and survived!

**Deano** · 4th March 2008, 09:09

Yeah why not add more hazards to the roads eh ? (note sarcasm)

Look at the overseas research. It's not rocket science.

There are safer (and cheaper long term) options available.

**rudolph** · 4th March 2008, 09:11

There not up the middle of the motorway are they? there on farms you jackass

**QMOTO** · 4th March 2008, 09:12

Originally Posted by Sidewinder

i totaly agree with you there hun.
and what about barbed wire and deer fences?

HUN ?? sheesh bloody poof

Deer fences are fine, good for around race tracks like Paeroa so must be good

**All** · 4th March 2008, 09:14

Originally Posted by White trash

I've thrown myself through a farmers fence at 200+kph and survived. The wire snapped. Wouldn't want to test the breaking point of a cheesecutter wire with a human body.

Damn! I won't be lining up to try that one.

**carver** · 4th March 2008, 09:16

Originally Posted by rudolph

There not up the middle of the motorway are they? there on farms you jackass

hey homo, whats the greater chance, running wide, or crossing the middle of a motorway

**Colapop** · 4th March 2008, 09:21

Cheesecutter barriers aren't made with no.8 wire though. They're constructed with wire rope. The breaking strain of wire rope is far greater than that of no.8 wire.

There is nothing that's going to make NZ roads perfectly safe, save having no-one use them. The anti-cheesecutter lobby is about trying to have the safest barriers (for all road users) installed. IF cheesecutters are going to be installed then they should be installed with the manufacturers reccomended median (3m) and not like along centenial highway (Coastal highway - Kapiti) where the median is at best 500mm.