Cheesecutters, that bad?

[SARGE]

Like I've said before - it doesn't take a rocket scientist.

At the time of the accident it was widely reported to the public that excessive speed was a governing factor. We, on here, were well aware of Dan's penchant for performing high speed wheel stands. The effort to make Dan the poster child for the anti WRB campaign is where any hope of widespread public support was lost. The general public already view us as a bunch of dickheads who deserve everything we get.

im not tryin to make anyone a posterboy..i just think there are better ways to die than getting turned into a kebab by a government that would rather save money than lives.. the goddamn things wont stop a car from going through..are they just there so we can see the pretty flowers?


ive seen dismembered bodies.. have you?

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

ive seen dismembered bodies.. have you?

Unfortunately I have... a few times...

[SARGE]

didnt you leave this site?
what you think of the vids?

i have never passed a car in a blind corner on video (from memory)

show it to me.

oh waaaaaahhhh, a biker dies, and we all get bagged.

though a guy like you could take it.

i take it all the time.

i think you have me confused for skidmark!

what should i place a bet on next mr soothsayer!

i want to make some easy coin!

i'll bet your the next contestant on Sarge's Iggy List

oh look.. i win..

**click**

douchbag

[carver]

i'll bet your the next contestant on Sarge's Iggy List

oh look.. i win..

**click**

douchbag

what ever makes you feel better

[MSTRS:Me]

... The effort to make Dan the poster child for the anti WRB campaign ....

No such effort was ever made. His death was used to illustrate what bikers have been saying for years - that horrific injuries/death would happen if a biker should hit that shit.
What is so hard to understand about that? The exposed wires and posts are deadly. It is proven fact.
We know these barriers have saved many lives, that is not in dispute. Perhaps they have even saved a biker or 2...but only by preventing the other vehicle from crossing over. Cross overs happen for all sorts of reasons, but however it happens, should a biker do it, he is most likely dead. That is why Europe and Britain are removing these nasty things.
And just in case you weren't paying attention...the campaign is not about removing them. It is asking that no more be installed. That, and a way be found to make the existing ones safer for bikers.

[WelshWizard]

Let me guess - a motorcyclist pulling wheelstands on a GSXR1000 (with a weakened steering head from landing too many wheelstands) right alongside a wire rope barrier?

Without the facts, who knows what happened, I lost a mate while living in South Africa, while he was riding his bike on the national road from Cape Town to Somerset West, he was riding a Suzuki at less than 120 Ks ( 120K's being the legal speed limit for that road) not the fault of the bike or the rider, as he was caught by the South Easter which picked his bike up and dropped him over the Central barrier in front of an oncoming Lorry. ( in Cape Town it is common for the council to put ropes from lamp post to lamp post and you often have photos of pedestrian holding on while being blown by the South Easter, feet in the air. so without knowing why its just casting crappola on the M/C rider in South Africa.

MSTRS & yungatart, are you suggesting that it's better to bury our heads in the sand and ignore the fact that the only death caused by WRBs in New Zealand can be directly attributed to irresponsible behaviour?

Once again jumping to conclusion when not all the fact are out. from what I know Speed was not the issue in this crash, nor was vision, most riders even at 80K's would have ended the same way, it will all come out at the inquest, and the Cops are in for a surprise with this one.

[MSTRS:Me]

...it will all come out at the inquest...

Any news on when?

[WelshWizard]

It will not be for some time yet.