Frame Sliders

[All]

I'm not convinced about frame sliders/crash bungs. I'm thinking that if you had a bad enough accident and they caught on something (thereby doing more damage than if the bike didn't have them), I'm sure the insurance company would love that as an excuse not to pay out.

I guess they'd be useful if the bike tipped over and you didn't want to claim insurance (or for a wee slide down the road). What do you think, ie, what are the pros and cons as you see them? Does anyone know what insurance companies think of them?

[RantyDave]

They're there as a protection measure for your excess and no claims bonus. If you have a big enough prang that the bungs catching on something might be a problem, then you're probably writing the bike off anyway.

I have some which are mounted on a big spring and shaft thing. It seemed like a good idea at the time (taking the fall on a spring instead of the frame) but right now I'm not convinced they'd work if you dropped the bike with almost any forward momentum at all. Part of the reason I think this is that when I hit the entrance to the shed one day (wooden, not all that strong, a bit above walking speed) the crash bung folded and bent the bolt running through the middle. So, my point - get short ones, or don't get them at all.

You could also get race rails (http://www.powersstuntworx.com/image...ce_railz_l.jpg)

Dave

[Pwalo]

They're only there to protect you in a tip over, or low speed fall on the road.

I can see that they might work all right for a low side on a nice smooth race track.

Still they might just save you from a ding on your frame if you forget to put your side stand down. I've got them on the SV, but I don't intend to test them out.

[Usarka]

I reckon damage to mr IDrumm's R1 on friday could have been a lot worse without a crash bung...... I don't think his was a low speed tip

[Pwalo]

I reckon damage to mr IDrumm's R1 on friday could have been a lot worse without a crash bung...... I don't think his was a low speed tip

Don't think that they helped Mr Biaggi in race two though!

[DMNTD:Me]

I reckon damage to mr IDrumm's R1 on friday could have been a lot worse without a crash bung...... I don't think his was a low speed tip

+1....he was doing 200kmph when he binned (on Taupo track).
He was able to ride the bike back to Tauranga!
My frame sliders also saved my ZX10 from spewing oil everywhere and enabled me to be able to continue to ride the sucker.

[kiwifruit]

I reckon damage to mr IDrumm's R1 on friday could have been a lot worse without a crash bung...... I don't think his was a low speed tip

I binned at Taupo, crash bungs saved the bike until it left the track, the bung then caught / dug in to the grass / earth and flipped the bike a few times.
Damage would have been very minor if the bung wasn't there.

[EnzoYug]

As long as the bike is road-worthy and you were driving within the limitations of your licence (ie: it has a current reg and wof, no one can prove you were speeding or otherwise breaking the law) then insurance companies will pay out.

Insurance companies have to pay out people with straight-cut exhausts, massive rear tyres, USD Forks etc... all of which make a bike horrifically more dangerous and likely to disintegrate on impact with the road. Unfortunately if they have a WOF, REG and licence at the time of crash..... it's payout time.

Short answer: Sliders = good.

[EnzoYug]

I binned at Taupo, crash bungs saved the bike until it left the track, the bung then caught / dug in to the grass / earth and flipped the bike a few times.
Damage would have been very minor if the bung wasn't there.

Damage would have been non-existent if you hadn't crashed at all....

[kiwifruit]

Damage would have been non-existent if you hadn't crashed at all....

Ya don't say

[All]

As long as the bike is road-worthy and you were driving within the limitations of your licence (ie: it has a current reg and wof, no one can prove you were speeding or otherwise breaking the law) then insurance companies will pay out.

Insurance companies have to pay out people with straight-cut exhausts, massive rear tyres, USD Forks etc... all of which make a bike horrifically more dangerous and likely to disintegrate on impact with the road. Unfortunately if they have a WOF, REG and licence at the time of crash..... it's payout time.

Short answer: Sliders = good.

How do straight exhausts, large tyres, and USDs make a bike more likely to disintegrate in a crash?

[All]

As long as the bike is road-worthy and you were driving within the limitations of your licence (ie: it has a current reg and wof, no one can prove you were speeding or otherwise breaking the law) then insurance companies will pay out.

They'll pay out as long as you informed them of the modifications...

[James Deuce]

I can write the Zed off with a tip over in the garage. The crash bungs are there so that the fairing upper doesn't get broken when it falls over.Bar ends and mirrors are cheap. Stock bodywork isn't.

[All]

I can write the Zed off with a tip over in the garage. The crash bungs are there so that the fairing upper doesn't get broken when it falls over.Bar ends and mirrors are cheap. Stock bodywork isn't.

I hear that. Fairings are crazy expensive. I suppose the point for you is that you wouldn't claim on insurance if the bike tips over.

[EnzoYug]

How do straight exhausts, large tyres, and USDs make a bike more likely to disintegrate in a crash?

I'm taking the piss :P What i'm getting at is that those who are going to invest time and money into a bike are also more likely (if only a tiny bit more) to ride hard and see the ground.

*oh and I know! what a big generalization I have made - grain of the salty stuff please people.