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    I will only say i wasn't on auto pilot but was stuck on a one track mind. I passed a truck on a corner that had a long straight past it and time before to "check" for cars. Going around the truck was the stupidest thing i have ever done and will NEVER do it again like that. I should mention that there was a bank right next to the road so no place to go if anything went wrong.
    I may be slow at getting things but..... no wait I'm just slow.

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    Scary. The closest I can think of is on trails I know very well, won't bore you with the details but I've done several semi-dodgy things like that over the years. Seems to me the decision to pull the trigger on the manoeuvre in question is made by the subconscious when you’re not paying attention. Even though your higher functions are otherwise occupied the decision process proceeds as normal, including the mental shortcuts we make by way of preparatory actions, like brief visualisations and tactile cues. Once they’re in place it’s actually quite hard to bail out, so even once you “wake up” to the danger there’s a strong tendency to continue. Weird insight on how the brain works, wonder if it’s related to hypnotic protocols…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom View Post
    Wow guys! Amazing to think that you can "auto" on a bike.

    The only time I have ever experienced anything similar was when I was nursing, driving home after work. After I registered I used to do permanent night shifts. There have been times I have woken up in bed at 3pm and wondered how the hell I had got there? At this time the trip was Greenlane Hospital to Bucklands Beach. Not a small distance, some on motorway, against the traffic, and apparently I can do this trip and not actually register it at the time.

    Cant imagine the same trip on a bike.
    I used to drive from Norwich up to Dundee and back in a weekend almost weekly at one point. This is the time I was doing some pro driving in the holidays at Uni and clocking up about 60,000ks a year in cages. I had a quite a few "where am I?" moments and micro sleep moments. Never any incidents though.

    More worryingly I once gave a mate a pillion home and had no recollection of any of it. I didn't even know where he lived when I thought about tracing the route in my mind. Weird.

    These days I think - focus focus focus all the time.
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    Like a game of pool

    I ride on auto all the time in the city.

    After years of commuting you find that you're not actually talking to yourself any more. You're just 'doing it'. I'll be discussing the days work in my head as I fly up the southern - headcheck, split, indicate, turn, countersteer - I do it all without thinking.

    And if I'm having a good day I'll push it a bit, feeling totally safe. Like a great game of pool, you're not wondering about the angle, or fidling with the cue - you're just hitting the balls and sending them home.


    Corners and shitty cage behaviour will 'snap' me back into manual though.
    I believe 'auto' is faster and safer as there's no 'think time' involved. Just pure reaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    Seems like the imp of the perverse had a good grip on me in those seconds.
    Nah, mate; that's not an imp, it's a demon.
    I'd get you straight to an exorcist, before it takes over completely.
    Or you could try a DIY exorcism - I hear a brick is pretty good for that.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Auto

    Have never done it on a bike but in my car I have found myself at home or at work (when not wanting to be there) just because my mind has wondered and has headed automatically for known places. It is pretty freaky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikern1mpho View Post
    Have never done it on a bike but in my car I have found myself at home or at work (when not wanting to be there) just because my mind has wondered and has headed automatically for known places. It is pretty freaky.
    A guy I used to work with left the company we worked at to work at a place just up the road. He didn't really want to leave but his role had pretty much been redundified.

    He had to drive past our car park to get to his new job and about a month after he left he turned up in my office in the morning. Yup, he’d been on auto pilot and just sort of slotted into his old routine. He did it about once a fortnight for over a year, became almost a ritual, with me having his coffee ready when he arrived.
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    My goodness. Auto-pilot. Zoning out. Detaching. I wonder how often "I didn't see the bike?!??!" is the end result of cagers doing this.



    There are some effective mental exercises that you can perform in order to stop this. You'll find highly trained people like pilots use a philosphy similar to this.

    The habitual check:
    Get into the habit of doing a check routine. Instruments, road ahead, mirrors, road ahead... I do the habitual check process in the cage, and it's saved me a couple of times.

    The what if planning scenario:
    I plan for events - if that cages stops now, then I'll shoot left. If that kid runs across the road, I'll pull right and brake. If that chick in the lane beside me finishes her txt, I'll blow her a kiss.

    If you're doing the what if, it keeps you alert, and you're always looking for gaps and trouble. It gives the ACTION when an event happens

    The health check:
    If I'm tired, or stressed, or sleepy - I have no right to be on the scoot. I'm an insomniac, so there are days where I am so tired, that life and sleep kind of merge. On days like that, I work from home, or get someone else to drive. Sleep depravation and the resultant effect is similar to being boozed.

    The long ride thrash:
    If I find that I'm starting to drift on long rides, I pull over, take a piss, whatever. Stretch. Whatever it takes to get the blood flow going.

    Speed is my friend:
    Instant death has a neat way of grabbing your attention, so by riding a little faster than the traffic you keep your head in the game. If you sit between traffic and flow with them (like a line of lemmings), after a while your brain normalises the traffic around you and you don't notice so much. By constantly moving past and looking for a way past, your brain is more occupied.

    The Processor speed dilemma:
    People are a lot like computers, some people have faster processors and more RAM. I can remember a massive amount of detail, some days I can see individual stones on the road and remember them (this is useful for track days for lines and braking points). Some people can sort of remember the general direction they're heading in, the rest is vague (drive with an old person sometime to illustrate this).

    If you've got lots of processing going on, your brain will be alert. If you've got little thinking happening, you'll tend to be driven by the subconcious. Stuff like the mechanical bit of riding, steering, changing - should be intuitive and not thought about. Important stuff like braking, direction of travel, and thinking about hazards should be absolutely at the mental leading edge and continually thought about.

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