Dangerous driving: Genuine query

[offrd]

Two officers viewed the "act", bike impounded under the new boy racer laws, court case pending.....

Not that i was there or anything but if you took off like a bullet from a gun barrel from lights or whatever or got the front wheel up...

Then you have no grounds to fight the case really do you....

It would then be do the crime, do the time like anyone else.... and learn from it.

If you took off in a noisy manner on a gutless bike and the cop thought you looked fast, you may have a case to fight....

If the cop thought you may not have been able to stop had someone walked out or a kid ran out in front of you then he has all the grounds to smoke your licence....

Sorry to put a down on things but...... Two cops against you....


Buy some good walking shoes....

[_Gina_]

Thanks for all the comments and helpful links.

I am not looking to "get off" the charge, was just wanting to get some information, which may or maynot help me with my day in court without spending money on a QC or such.

I did what I did and have admitted it and will take the punishment handed out.

G

[90s]

I agree. The other day I reported a dickhead who tried to kill me by using the online reporting thingy. (Well, he was using I car, of course, I was using the online reporting thingy). In my report I indicated my willingness to testify against said dickhead in the event that a case was to be brought against said dickhead, owing to my viewing people who try on vehicular manslaughter as part of their morning jollies in a very dim light indeed. A very friendly person then phoned me to say a) thanks for my report, and b) did I understand that it was not possible to prosecute in cases like this, and they'd just be sending the naughty naughty note...

Seems to argue against the dedicated member of the public theory.

But YMMV.

At least you got a reply. I reported someone only once, and used the online form. A woman (in a 4x4 but of course) along my morning commute was, swear to god, making some kind of breakfast on her lap and eating it, swerving along the Gt Nth Rd over the centre-line and randonmly back and forth, drawing flashes from other cars and nearly took me out twice by sideswiping me.
Giving her a look and stern (but not rude) gesture on the SH16 slip she then attmepted to push me off the road.
I had a reply saying that they could not proceed with processing because the number plate I entered did not exist. When I checked, I had simply put a space in the wrong place. I corrected it, and then was told it would be processed.
Never heard from them on this again.

[nodrog:Me]

.......and will take the punishment handed out.

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[_Gina_]

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MMMMMM, y'know I love it when you hit me with your rhythm stick Gordie

[rainman]

At least you got a reply. ...
Never heard from them on this again.

I don't think they usually respond, other than when necessary, they just send the letter out and that's that. I understand once a driver gets lots of these they may pay them a visit, but I'm not absolutely sure.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Does anyone know the answer to the following questions?

I have been charged with -
Dangerous driving & unnecessary display of speed/racing on a public highway.

No speed has been noted or estimated on my traffic offence notice.

Q's)
Is this normal and if not; does this help in trying to put together special circumstances?
What are the guidelines for special circumstances surrounding these types of charges and how can I find them.


G

tsk tsk. obviously a menace to society, better off in prison.

best advice I can give you is GET LAWYERED UP.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Yes in fact I posted a link to the exact law earlier in this very thread.

TAKE YOUR NUMBER PLATE OFF AND THROW IT AWAY, AND THEN RIDE HOW YOU LIKE.

[crazybigal]

dot flame people when you dont know what your talking about please!

discovery

A formal investigation -- governed by court rules -- that is conducted before trial. Discovery allows one party to question other parties, and sometimes witnesses. It also allows one party to force the others to produce requested documents or other physical evidence. The most common types of discovery are interrogatories, consisting of written questions the other party must answer under penalty of perjury, and depositions, which involve an in-person session at which one party to a lawsuit has the opportunity to ask oral questions of the other party or her witnesses under oath while a written transcript is made by a court reporter. Other types of pretrial discovery consist of written requests to produce documents and requests for admissions, by which one party asks the other to admit or deny key facts in the case. One major purpose of discovery is to assess the strength or weakness of an opponent's case, with the idea of opening settlement talks. Another is to gather information to use at trial. Discovery is also present in criminal cases, in which by law the prosecutor must turn over to the defense any witness statements and any evidence that might tend to exonerate the defendant. Depending on the rules of the court, the defendant may also be obliged to share evidence with the prosecutor.

See Topic: Go to Court or Mediate

Discovery is a TV channel where most people here get their legal advice. It is disclosure.

[Patrick]

Thanks for all the comments and helpful links.

I am not looking to "get off" the charge, was just wanting to get some information, which may or maynot help me with my day in court without spending money on a QC or such.

I did what I did and have admitted it and will take the punishment handed out.

G

Save yourself the $$$ then for ya bus fares and Lattes. Flag the lawyer.



Hey Crazy... Discovery is the American telly version. IN NZ it is called "disclosure."

[spudchucka]

Discovery is a TV channel where most people here get their legal advice. It is disclosure.

Disclosure is the correct term, however only documents that are "discoverable" are disclosed.

[Coldrider]

[QUOTE=Patrick;1470535]Save yourself the $$$ then for ya bus fares and Lattes. Flag the lawyer.

Advice as a fellow motorcyclist ?
That's why the police had to set up canteens at the police station.

[_Gina_]

I have no intention of using a lawyer.

I spoke to the Prosecutions team today and have popped in and submitted a written request for all information pertaining to my case.
I would gather that this will give me a clear indication of how the "incident" is perceived by the Police.

[Patrick]

[QUOTE=Coldrider;1470896]

Save yourself the $$$ then for ya bus fares and Lattes. Flag the lawyer.

Advice as a fellow motorcyclist ?
That's why the police had to set up canteens at the police station.

Nah... advice only as if ya know ya did it, get on with it...(her words to that effect, not mine BTW) throw $$$ at a lawyer if ya want, but unless there is a "defence" you don't need a lawyer to say, "fair cop guv, ya got me."

Canteens in cop shops? We have instant coffee and tea bags, sometimes Milo, and ya make it yourself... still good for washing them donuts down...

[Coldrider]

If it was me I would admit nothing, and get a lawyer to defend myself and minimise the impact of the consequences, wouldn't want to make it easy for the judge to make an example of me.
Some judges do not like people who try to defend themselves.
Even if the cost adds to the fine I would be happy that I did the best for myself in the circumstances, as I said, that if it was me.

Donuts?, Whisky & water when me ol man was a copper.