Dangerous driving: Genuine query

[Pixie]

Go to jail forget the legal begals do your time, just remember with a smile what your speeding cost you and learn from it, I'm not saying don't speed just learn from the experiance, the law will win..

I agree with fukonin.Be a good sheep,plead guilty,stick your wooly bum in the air and be thankful for your punishment.
What ever you do,don't make the justice system justify their riddiculous charges.

[Patrick]

If it was me ...

Donuts?, Whisky & water when me ol man was a copper.

They like to see guilty pleas, not wasting the courts time... Bwahahahahahahahahahaha......

Whiskey and water? Did I know your dad????????? Us old farts gotta move with the time... Whiskey and water washes donuts down pretty damn good too ya know...

[Coldrider]

They like to see guilty pleas, not wasting the courts time... Bwahahahahahahahahahaha......

Whiskey and water? Did I know your dad????????? Us old farts gotta move with the time... Whiskey and water washes donuts down pretty damn good too ya know...

Legal system is set up to protect defendants against the excesses of the state, the judge/JP are fiercely independant.

You might have known me dad, he got a QPM before he retired (that narrows it down to a handful). Had a stuggle on my hands to get a denim jacket, let alone a motorcycle, as a teenager.

[Deviant Esq]

I have no intention of using a lawyer.

I spoke to the Prosecutions team today and have popped in and submitted a written request for all information pertaining to my case.
I would gather that this will give me a clear indication of how the "incident" is perceived by the Police.

If you've been a naughty girl, you've been a naughty girl, there are no two ways about it. But you know this, so I'll just say that when good girls are good, they're pretty good, but when they're bad they're better...

The only thing I'll say/suggest is that depending on what you've done, you may or may not have a case for pleading not guilty on the grounds that what you were doing was really 'careless driving' rather than 'dangerous driving' - careless driving as a charge carries a much lighter penalty, and you (in most cases) don't get your licence taken off you for 6 months - as will happen if you are convicted of dangerous. Keep us updated of your progress, and good luck.

[Grub]

What are the guidelines for special circumstances surrounding these types of charges and how can I find them.

Best idea is to look up the legislation at http://www.legislation.govt.nz/ There's good stuff in there.

[mitchilin]

If your going to North Shore,get a duty solicitor.Don't go in and plead guilty by yourself.Been there done that and got fucked over.15 month disqual and ovet $1200 fines for being clocked at 105 in a 50.If you are at N/S then there will be time to see a DS.Nicest court I've been to.

[rocketman1]

Riding at a "dangerous speed is purely subjective in my opinion, 100 kmh can be dangerous, so can 50kmh be dangerous, Dangerous by definition is doing a speed that can be dangerous to yourself and others, doing 150kmh on an isolated straight road, with no traffic (but for a parked patrol car) in my opinion is not dangerous, now doing 85 kmh in town with kids and cars and cyclists around you is dangerous, because you are then a danger to everyone.
Police, like most officials do tend go by the book / law and not judge things, by common sense. This lack of common sense is what tends to get up Joe Publics nose from time to time. I got caught doing 62 km/h in town 10pm on a Sunday night, no traffic about at all except for the one car?? parked on a side road, when i queried the sense in fining me, the officer said how would I like if people did this speed down my street. My reply was I would love it, most traffic on my street travels at least 75-80kmh and occasionaly 100-120kmh at least. I qualify my earlier statement, the older officers seem to have some common sense, the younger ones seem to have little.

[Patrick]

If your going to North Shore,get a duty solicitor.Don't go in and plead guilty by yourself.Been there done that and got fucked over.15 month disqual and ovet $1200 fines for being clocked at 105 in a 50.If you are at N/S then there will be time to see a DS.Nicest court I've been to.

....and still get a 15 month disqaully and $1200 in fines if ya did it yaself...

[_Gina_]

6 months loss of license, get it back 09/01/2009.

Used a duty solicitor and negotiated directly with the police prosecutor who agreed to drop the "...racing on a public highway..." and charge only for "dangerous".

Turns out I was lucky that I had sold the bike as they would have impounded it due to my having been charged with EBA within a 2 year timeframe.


Over and out 10/4 big buddies
Gina.

[avgas]

Say you have done it in the past, and you will do it again.
As long as labour is still in they will let you off lightly so you can vote again. Labour likes repeat offenders.....ooops i meant repeat voters

[discotex]

6 months loss of license, get it back 09/01/2009.

Thanks for the update. Do we get to hear the full story now you've been through the courts?

[skidMark]

Prepare to be walking for a minimum of 6 months. impound fees to relase your vehicle will be 400-500 ish...

**speaks from experiance**

21 months total disqualification for me.

[Blackshear]

Thanks for the update. Do we get to hear the full story now you've been through the courts?

+1. Just read the whole threat, no mention of anything other than unmarked undercover. Gosh.

[Toaster]

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Nah... advice only as if ya know ya did it, get on with it...(her words to that effect, not mine BTW) throw $$$ at a lawyer if ya want, but unless there is a "defence" you don't need a lawyer to say, "fair cop guv, ya got me."

Canteens in cop shops? We have instant coffee and tea bags, sometimes Milo, and ya make it yourself... still good for washing them donuts down...

Agreed, there are some real rip off useless lawyers that make it sound like they are defending you but they just clip the ticket three times and then negotiate your guilty plea vs charges.

I recall the boss at one station being so damn tight that we had to use our own bloody milk for coffee and tea.... usually cause some bastard used it all on his breakfast.

[_Gina_]

I came on the motorway at Newmarket, heading north to Onewa Rd offramp, was a Friday evening, 6pm ish.
I had been visiting a friend and had had two beers over a two hour period.
Traffic flow was medium heavy, visibility good and weather fine.

I was splitting through the traffic and a (guy) on ZX9R was behind me splitting through too.
Basically I got caught up in a "I can ride better than you" scenario and I dropped the ball and lost my normally acute awareness of my surroundings.

I came up the bridge splitting through the left two lanes and the guy on the ZX9R was playing major catch up after I had left him behind back further at the edge of spaghetti junction, I spotted him going hard to catch up and thought - "don't think so mate" and it was then that I made my fatal mistake.
I took a line through the two lanes and traffic and got my knee down as I carved through past a mufti HP in the left lane and was spotted.

The mufti HP took instant action and slapped the lights n sirens on just as the ZX9R was in between the mufti HP and another car, shat himself and slammed the brakes on too hard, went up on the front wheel, just managed to hold it together in my opinion.
Meanwhile, I had already decided that I was pulling over rather than running and effectively that is why the ZX9R was able to adjust speed and carry on.

As the officer said to me later, he couldn't pursue two bikes, and I made the decision a no brainer for him by pulling over as such.

Hope that pretty much covers what those that wanted the details wanted.

G