Dangerous driving: Genuine query

[dpex]

You see, here, Dangerous, is an exact example of what I'm on about in my post entitled 'A New Threat'. One which you put down as irrelevant.

But here's a cop with a quota and a biker doing his thing. The cop uses some utterly obscure law to tag the biker.

Now apply the ability of screw-head cops to apply the new 'gang' laws...should they ever come into force.

BTW: My suggestion to the biker is, simply go along to court and plead not guilty and let the cop come up with the evidence.

Take a pad and pen. Write down everything the cop says, then refute the points, one by one. Use words like, "not true." "No I didn't." "What test did the officer apply?" "Where is this test in the law...ergo, please have the officer produce the relevant test law."

Use phrases like, 'Your Honour, the officer stated that he observed...blah, blah, blah. He did not refer to any lawful measurement for his observation, therefore his observation is simply subjective, not objective.'

[dpex]

Remember, every man has a right to his day in court. But also remember that the court, at the level you will be in, is a churn. They churn them in and out in five minutes. But you have the right to saty there all day if you wish.

Many years ago I was charged with; to wit: Shouting, 'You fucking wanker,' at a maritime cop but within earshot of Her Majesty, the Queen Of England.' Like she'd never heard such foul language.

Anyway. I went to court dressed in the three-piece suit and clutching an empty brief-case. I stood in the dock and started to explain the circumstances. After about fifteen minutes of me bringing in the most minute of details and expanding on them...the time of day and what that meant. The ambient light, and what that meant. That my family were aboard our boat, and what that meant, inclduing what Granny would have felt if th cop and his boat had hit us.....etc. I just went on and on with whatever I could dream up.

Finally the judge said, 'Mr Dpex, this is all 'very' interesting but may we ask you get to the nub of the matter.'

'Yes. Yarona'. And off I went again with masses of toally irrelevant crap. The judge let me go on for a further ten minutes, stopped me and said, 'Yes....Thank you Mr Dpex. I think the best course here, to foreshorten events in this very busy court, would be to convict and discharge you. How does that sit with you?'

I figured having a charge for saying 'fucking wanker' in front of her Majesty was something I could live with. So I agreed.

So there's the plan. Get into the dock and keep talking till the judge or JP (most likely the latter) get's pissed off. But remember, he can't stop you talking, he can only offer you a shut-up deal.

All it takesd is a bit of balls to keep talking, and talking, and talking. And reember, you have the right to talk all day if you wish. They don't have the facility to let you talk all day. So talk them into a deal. Like discharged without conviction. Make that offer when you're asked.

[Patrick]

So your day was totally wasted then...????

What did you think the penalty for swearing near the Queen was going to be????????

I'll give ya a clue...

Convicted and Discharged....

[spudchucka]

Man I just love the KB bush lawyer posts.

[_Gina_]

Man I just love the KB bush lawyer posts.

Well yeah, I do for the shits and gigles - when I am in the "mood".
But not in my thread fuckers!!!

[Patrick]

Awwww.... come on Gina... Get with the programme...

The thread has been hijacked, just like so many before it... Its the way of KB, you know....

[Bend-it]

Many years ago I was charged with; to wit: Shouting, 'You fucking wanker,' at a maritime cop but within earshot of Her Majesty, the Queen Of England.'

You da man!! :

[Shadows]

And it is called 'discovery' in some US states - seems that Boston Legal is filling in our NZ legal knowledge. Denny Krane!

It is also called discovery here. Nothing to do with Merkin TV shows.

[Big Dave]

Ya gots to learn to look for/spot mufti cars.

The lights in the window corners, the wheels or the meathead driving's blue shirt in the disguised ones.

[Shadows]

I took a line through the two lanes and traffic and got my knee down as I carved through past a mufti HP in the left lane and was spotted.

I'd say that getting your knee down on a motorway would appear to anybody (particularly a judge) as an "unneccessary exhibition" in that generally this only happens on a race track.

Think about what any "normal" person's perception of this would be after watching 10 seconds MotoGP vs. their day to day experiences observing motorcycles riding on a public road.

You're fucked, I'm sorry for you.

[_Gina_]

You're fucked, I'm sorry for you.

Thanks for the heads up, I had been wondering for some time why I seemed different than the other motorcycle riders...
And there it is, I am fucked.
Depressing.

[Big Dave]

And there it is, I am fucked.

Got any pictures?

[spudchucka]

Well yeah, I do for the shits and gigles - when I am in the "mood".
But not in my thread fuckers!!!

I was referring to the outstanding legal advice offered by Mr d pex.

[Patrick]

It is also called discovery here. Nothing to do with Merkin TV shows.

Not quite - irs called "Disclosure" here.....

Ya gots to learn to look for/spot mufti cars.

The lights in the window corners, the wheels or the meathead driving's blue shirt in the disguised ones.

Thems not lights - thems radar units.... Right hand corners of car window, front and rear.

And there it is, I am fucked.
Depressing.

Nah... its all good, innit???

Got any pictures?

Mounted????

[jrandom]

I had already decided that I was pulling over rather than running...

Well, there's your problem right there.

Never mind, lesson learned for the future, eh?

Heading onto the bridge in traffic... you must have mates in various places on the Shore, right? You could have been through the traffic up the motorway, off into the 'burbs and up someone's driveway in the twinkle of an eye. Would have required risky riding and a bit of careful management of the inevitable 180bpm heart rate, etc, but you can't beat the rush when you pull it off successfully.

And if you fail, at least you can say you tried.

Ya gots to learn to look for/spot mufti cars.

Not much point if you're (as Gina says she was) riding in a way that gives you three tenths of sweet fuck all chance of slowing down quickly enough to look innocent.