Etiquette

[Timber020]

Fortunately, for both of us, it simply would never happen.

I care about my bike... alot.
I am extremely careful where I park it. So much so that if I happen to be walking round town and have had parked my bike and see that someone has parked to what I feel is too close to mine I will go move mine.
It is not difficult to give a fuck when parking to make sure that (providing noone parks dodgerly (sp?) after you have left that it will still be there when you get back.
BTW> By definition, if you came back and your bike was on the ground it was not "well parked"

This reminds me of the US legal attitude of being able to find someone to blame and sue whenever something bad happens. If the bike is so precious perhaps its better left in a parking building or at home. Nobody parks a bike for it to fall over, and the wind in this town can drop them all.

[cowboyz]

That is really insulting.

The US legal attitude is all about assigning blame and failing to take personal responsibility.
I am not assigning blame. I am saying if your bike damages property you should stick your hand up and pay for the damage it caused.
I frequent wellington alot. None of the bikes I have owned have ever fallen over. Are you suggesting I am just lucky?
I live in Ashhurst, right under a shitload of windmills. This would suggest we get our fair share of wind here too. Again, my bike has never fallen over.

If the bike is so precious perhaps its better left in a parking building or at home.

by this are you saying that you are fine with your bike being damaged?

[No FX]

If the they parked the bike properly then i think that its a "shit happens" thing, if it was due to the way they parked i.e on a hill the wrong way, then its something they did wrong that caused the damage to your bike so you have reason to hit them up about it.

[All]

A policeman I talked to thought it was definitely the responsibility of the person whos bike blew over (I just happened to talk to one, I didn't actually go to the police over it!).

[Tank]

A policeman I talked to thought it was definitely the responsibility of the person whos bike blew over (I just happened to talk to one, I didn't actually go to the police over it!).

Thats what I would have thought.

I reckon that all the people who have said "shit happens" are generally blowing it out there ass.

Imagine pulling up and parking your bike. Someone comes along and parks close to you. A gust of wind and the other bike blows over onto your bike right in front of both riders. Faring crack, dint in the tank, light broken - of shit this is going to cost a couple of grand.

How many of the "shit happens" team would actually say that to the other rider. "Its OK mate - Ill take the insurance claim - lose my no claims bonus, and pay the 1k excess".

I bet the answer is a lot less than said "shit happens"

[McDuck]

Thats what I would have thought.

I reckon that all the people who have said "shit happens" are generally blowing it out there ass.

Imagine pulling up and parking your bike. Someone comes along and parks close to you. A gust of wind and the other bike blows over onto your bike right in front of both riders. Faring crack, dint in the tank, light broken - of shit this is going to cost a couple of grand.

How many of the "shit happens" team would actually say that to the other rider. "Its OK mate - Ill take the insurance claim - lose my no claims bonus, and pay the 1k excess".

I bet the answer is a lot less than said "shit happens"

Well my policy it is the first 300 dollars if it is stationery.
If the person had done all they can then i would say shit happens and have done in the past. (given not for a bike)

[bert_is_evil]

My old gsxr250 was blown over on my carport and smashed the fence, I was on the phone to the insurance company a few days later about another matter so I asked them about it - they said they'd pay for the damage to the bike but not the fence because it's an "act of god". I can just see me fronting up to the landlord when I move out and explaining that it's gods fault it got broken not mine....

[Tank]

Well my policy it is the first 300 dollars if it is stationery.
If the person had done all they can then i would say shit happens and have done in the past. (given not for a bike)

the excess is the small number - you have to remember the lack of no claims - and the additional cost when you start looking for new insurance providers.

[surfchick]

What do you think is fair practice (with regard to paying for damage) for if someones bike blows over into yours?

this HAD to be a question from wellington! see.. if it was auckland you would be asking who pays for it if two parked bikes float off in a deluge and knock into each other as they bob down the queen st. storm water system...

[McDuck]

the excess is the small number - you have to remember the lack of no claims - and the additional cost when you start looking for new insurance providers.

Well i dont know of anybody who (provided that they have everything with the company) has had any problem renewing if they have had a claim or two, and even then a no claims is not more than a few hundred.


If you are that way inclined then you will always find ways to make somebody liable, but i prefer to do that only if they deserve it.

[Thumper]

Had a similar experience last year but with the car and not the bike. Got a call from my wife while I was at work, she was in tears, it seems that she opened her car door in a car park, the wind caught it and it blew open on to the car parked next to her. It had left a small ding on the other car. For me it was a no brainer, I asked the missus to leave a note on the windscreen explaining what had happened with our home telephone number. When she got home she phoned our insurance company and opened a claim so that when the cal lcame from the owner of the other car she could give him/her the number and contact details of our broker who could get it all sorted.

I have picked up a heap of bumps and scratches on my car left by fuckwits in parking lots and not one of them has left a note. I had both front and back bumpers resprayed a year back and the back needs to be resprayed again. Despite this, I am not prepared to sink to depths of others.

Act of God or otherwise, I just wish more fuckwits would stand up and take responsibility for their actions (or lack of). Might sort out some of the problems this great country is facing.

[Mom]

If your bike gets damaged by something being blown into it, all you have to do is make a claim on your own insurance. It is not your fault and does not mean you lose your no claims discount. If you are not insured you get to pay. Nobody expects their bike to get blown over, is an "Act of God" type claim.

I once had a 3 seater swing seat get picked up off my tiny upstairs patio by the wind, it missed the soffit and spouting on my house, rearranged my firewood lean to and went over the fence and parked itself into my neighbours car! Very messy and an expensive repair.

No fault of mine, I was not negligent, and her insurance paid out with no loss of her no claims.

That is why we have insurance, its for the Oh fuck! moments!

[Jantar]

....Imagine pulling up and parking your bike. Someone comes along and parks close to you. A gust of wind and the other bike blows over onto your bike right in front of both riders. Faring crack, dint in the tank, light broken - of shit this is going to cost a couple of grand...

So if the other bike wasn't there to block the wind it would have been your bike that blew over.

[Timber020]

That is really insulting.

The US legal attitude is all about assigning blame and failing to take personal responsibility.
I am not assigning blame. I am saying if your bike damages property you should stick your hand up and pay for the damage it caused.
I frequent wellington alot. None of the bikes I have owned have ever fallen over. Are you suggesting I am just lucky?
I live in Ashhurst, right under a shitload of windmills. This would suggest we get our fair share of wind here too. Again, my bike has never fallen over.



by this are you saying that you are fine with your bike being damaged?

My bikes have all got damaged at some point, At least 3 times by cars reversing into them. I dont like my bike getting damaged but bikes are inherently unstable, they are always going to get damaged at some point in there life. Its just stuff. Im not saying its okay for someone to damage your property, but when something like wind blows another bike over, I think it starts to get a little crazy. On a stormy day the carnage around wellington bike parks can be impressive, fingerpointing amongst riders is hardly likely to benefit anyone but the insurance co's and lawyers.
I think you have been lucky, my GSXR was knocked over 3 times by wind at my house. My wife has had her 2007 bike blown over a few times at work in the last 6 months, judging by the damage it looks like another bike dropped on hers.

[cowboyz]

I think you have been lucky, my GSXR was knocked over 3 times by wind at my house.

One would think you would have found somewhere to park it that it wouldnt get blown over after the first time.
My wife has had her 2007 bike blown over a few times at work in the last 6 months, judging by the damage it looks like another bike dropped on hers.

And wouldnt it have been nice if there was a note left saying, sorry, heres my number, I will fix that up for you......