Busted? Help!

[discotex]

Even murderers get bail pending a court case.

Even drunk drivers can't lose their licence on the roadside right? Last I heard it was taking up to a year to serve the suspensions as well.

[Toaster]

Im not really thinking about right and wrong, just technicalities ??

Its likely the cop tracked the both of you... i.e. picked up one then the other. They don't need to lock the speed on or show you the readout either. Seeking disclosure of the officers notes is all you can really ask for at this stage. Could be an interesting read.

[hospitalfood]

Its likely the cop tracked the both of you... i.e. picked up one then the other. They don't need to lock the speed on or show you the readout either. Seeking disclosure of the officers notes is all you can really ask for at this stage. Could be an interesting read.

does the disclosure include details about his car and its current state ?
does it cost anything ?

thanks

[hospitalfood]

Dont worry about it Adam.

You are only in for a 28day ban unless he added a dangerous/reckless/careless charge - then its 6 months.

You are very lucky.

Last time I got a 28daya for doing the same offence (think i got written down as 156kph) I got a $780 fine.

It could be far worse, just look at skidmark. Or my signature for that matter...

you sure that they wont try to take it off me for longer ?

[Toaster]

does the disclosure include details about his car and its current state ?
does it cost anything ?

thanks

You would get all that through full disclosure but yeah the back of the ION will show details re the radar and should give cert number/date for officer.

I'd say at 140+ you will be lucky to get off it mate, the judge wont be amused at all.

[Skyryder]

Even drunk drivers can't lose their licence on the roadside right? Last I heard it was taking up to a year to serve the suspensions as well.

Yep that's right. They can get their keys taken off them but as far as I know they do not have and instant loss of licence.

I certainly know who the dangerouse drivers are. All drunk drivers are dangerous but not all speedsters are.

Skyryder

[spudchucka]

Even drunk drivers can't lose their licence on the roadside right?

They can at a booze bus if they blow 800 or more.

[jrandom]

They can at a booze bus if they blow 800 or more.

Something I've always wondered.

Will a booze bus give you a test if you rock up on foot and ask?

It'd be quite handy for when it was parked downtown near a pub. Nip out, check how pissed you are, nip back in, etc.

[cowboyz]

yes they will if you ask them. Then again, if you are not walking striaght and stumbling up the road they just tell you to get a taxi and be on your way without the ttest......

[Morcs]

you sure that they wont try to take it off me for longer ?

Only if there is a dangerous charge etc... you wouldve been issued that on the spot.

However, if you went to court to contest, there is the slight chance the judge could dish out a dangerous charge.

Or it takes you over 100 demerits - expect 50 points outta this.

[McDuck]

As I understand it, your speedo only has to be accurate within 10% for the purposes of your vehicle being road legal. That doesn't mean you're not accountable for the speed you were going, regardless of what your speedo says.

It don't have to be accurate at all. For all the wof guys care you could be doing 100 with it saying 20. (unless it is alternate fuel, then they dont like it)

[Renegade]

It's a separate issue however than taking someone's license at the roadside. Punishment before conviction is just simply against the principle of innocnet until proven guilty.

[/QUOTE] But! This cop has probably scraped up a few bikers who may or may not have been speeding. What HE saw was a couple of larikins RACING and figured you for his next cleaning job. I'm picking that he doesn't want to phone your mum [/QUOTE]

i did this on saturday, it ruined my day, but it seems the biker was at fault, dont make it any easier tho.

[spudchucka]

Something I've always wondered.

Will a booze bus give you a test if you rock up on foot and ask?

It'd be quite handy for when it was parked downtown near a pub. Nip out, check how pissed you are, nip back in, etc.

That's been discussed here before and the answer is almost always no.

The problem is that the sniffer test is not conclusive, which could result in a driver believing they are ok to drive when in fact they may be slightly over.

They would not let you use the evidential machine in the booze bus just to satisfy your own curiosity.

They general answer would be that if you think you have to be tested to be sure you are ok to drive then you shouldn't be driving at all.

[Soul.Trader]

we have decided it is worth fighting this. there is the matter of weather his radar is correct ? has been calibrated correctly and in the specified timeframe ?
if his car has / had a current warrant / rego ?

This has exactly SQUAT to do with the fact you raced past him at 142km/h. Why would his WOF/Reg have any impact on this case what so ever?

[marty]

There is UK case law on this. Unless the officer can 100% identify which bike was speeding the case will fail. The most he could do you for is exceeding 100kmh.

Fight it.

Sorry jimbo, but that's all the charge is anyway - 'exceeds 100km/h'. It is the speed that is in question.

AFAIK there is no NZ case law saying that more than one target cannot be tracked and stopped and had enforcement action taken, using the single radar - every boy racer drag racing another would have a defence if that was the case.

It would be a simple matter to stand up in court and correctly say - 'I had a clear view, a clear tone, and both targets were travelling at the same speed. Your honour'.