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    Keeping it upright - 53WNK

    Boys and girls, those who aren't sure,

    I thought I had the save of the week after two wheelspinning moments on the scoot getting to and from the WestPac ride (cold rear, too much juice, bad bends and diesel...).

    But, this morning, following a guy on his Yamaha on the wet and greasy beach road - going through the top bend of Castor Bay his rear stepped out about 6 inches - he saved it despite the touring tires, the huge pak rack, and the disability of his Yeha-mama...

    Nice save buddy. Song of the day for you...? Paul Simon, Slip Sliding Away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    Boys and girls, those who aren't sure,

    I thought I had the save of the week after two wheelspinning moments on the scoot getting to and from the WestPac ride (cold rear, too much juice, bad bends and diesel...).

    But, this morning, following a guy on his Yamaha on the wet and greasy beach road - going through the top bend of Castor Bay his rear stepped out about 6 inches - he saved it despite the touring tires, the huge pak rack, and the disability of his Yeha-mama...

    Nice save buddy. Song of the day for you...? Paul Simon, Slip Sliding Away...

    Madbikeboy.
    Glad I wasn't on the pillion seat then!

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    I flew back early from Welly - stoked to get back until I walked off the plane and into cyclone bola... I didn't have your number so couldn't call... You would have enjoyed the ride.

    I would have been super careful with Georgie on the back - by myself I tend to let the bike move around a little - it's the safest way to explore the limits, and when it slides in the dry it happens the same way, just loads faster...
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    I think you'll find his "touring tyres" are way better in the wet and greasy conditions than super sticky, mega-buck, race rep tyres. In fact most of the decent UK bike mags are saying that Sport Touring (Bike & TWO Wheels Only did comparative blind tests with "normal" riders) tyres are better in 99% of road riding than Supersport tyres, plus they last 5 times longer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I think you'll find his "touring tyres" are way better in the wet and greasy conditions than super sticky, mega-buck, race rep tyres. In fact most of the decent UK bike mags are saying that Sport Touring (Bike & TWO Wheels Only did comparative blind tests with "normal" riders) tyres are better in 99% of road riding than Supersport tyres, plus they last 5 times longer.
    Quite right Jim2 -

    I've been running Metzler M3's, they are more sports touring, they work better in cold rainy conditions than a full race rep tire... After all, how often does it rain in Auckland???

    Not sure about the tire life - I've done maybe 1800 clicks and mine is so shagged...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    I've been running Metzler M3's... Not sure about the tire life - I've done maybe 1800 clicks and mine is so shagged...
    That's because you're a ham-fisted rider on a thou. I know of a certain K7 750 shod with chicken-strip-free M3s that still have gobs of tread left after > 5000km.



    Edit: Actually, Metzeler aims the M3s at the same market as Michelin's Pilot Powers, etc. 'Sport' rather than 'sport touring'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    That's because you're a ham-fisted rider on a thou. I know of a certain K7 750 shod with chicken-strip-free M3s that still have gobs of tread left after > 5000km.



    Edit: Actually, Metzeler aims the M3s at the same market as Michelin's Pilot Powers, etc. 'Sport' rather than 'sport touring'.
    Hey JR,

    I'm not at all hamfisted. Just enthusiastic.

    The difference is the torque. I used to get long time fun on my 750, but the 1000 gives them a harder life. I'm going to look at a K6 750 tomorrow night - living with temptation is proving to be a tough battle...

    I've owned Pilot powers, and they're a good tire - I think the M3 is easier to live with, it's more progressive. The powers stick better, but a finer line between slip and grip. I'd rate the M3 below the power, and I think it's more sports tourer - depends which flavour of Power too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    The difference is the torque. I used to get long time fun on my 750, but the 1000 gives them a harder life. I'm going to look at a K6 750 tomorrow night - living with temptation is proving to be a tough battle...
    Aye, too true, too true.

    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    I've owned Pilot powers, and they're a good tire - I think the M3 is easier to live with, it's more progressive. The powers stick better, but a finer line between slip and grip.
    Good call. Almost exactly the same comment I've made here in the past vis-a-vis the PPs vs M3s debate. I'd rather ride on M3s with a sprotbike; if I need ultra grip I'll buy race tyres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    Aye, too true, too true.



    Good call. Almost exactly the same comment I've made here in the past vis-a-vis the PPs vs M3s debate. I'd rather ride on M3s with a sprotbike; if I need ultra grip I'll buy race tyres.

    You'll get in serimouse trouble with the BDOTGNZA one of these days, you know.
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    This is like being in school all over again!?!?!?

    I think I'll go look at my sprotbike...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    ugly assed leathers that someone put into a dustbin before he rescued them to go racing.


    Dude, be nice, Quasi loaned that brand new set of leathers to poor wee Mark so that he could ride safely on the track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madbikeboy View Post
    Nice save buddy. Song of the day for you...? Paul Simon, Slip Sliding Away...

    Madbikeboy.
    Have you been reading my sig?

    I stepped the rear out about two foot on a patch of loose roadworks gravel a few months ago, but luckily at about 60k. I saved it by pure reaction dabbing a foot down (not a recommended strategy). Man I went cold all over! If I'dv'e thought about it at all I'm sure I would have done the wrong thing.

    Song of that day - "Stepping out", The Fall
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post


    Dude, be nice, Quasi loaned that brand new set of leathers to poor wee Mark so that he could ride safely on the track.
    Skidmark riding safely???? TUI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrandom View Post
    K7 750 shod with chicken-strip-free M3s that still have gobs of tread left after > 5000km.
    > 8000k, including two track days. I'm doing something wrong, obviously...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Velvet View Post
    > 8000k, including two track days. I'm doing something wrong, obviously...
    Rear wear is all about how hard and how soon you get on the power, and front wear is all about how hard and how late you turn in under brakes.

    You'll find yourself doing both of the above more over time as your skills grow.

    Don't sweat it; just enjoy the halcyon n00b days of economical rubber usage...
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