Number plate hard to read?

[McJim]

Just had a thought. Get someone to take a photo of you on the bike. With your weight on the suspension maybe the rear hugger DOES obscure the plate.....just a thought.

[FROSTY:Me]

The questions I'd be asking as Mr cop is
1) where is the lighting for this number plate?
2) where is the red reflector required by law?
3) is the plate clearly visable/readable from my drivers seat or a speed camera ?
--Im not having a go at ya here biggles --Im just preparing ya for the likely questions

[marty]

He may run into issues in court if it's raised that the likes of trucks, speed camera's, opposing traffic, etc wouldn't be able to 'easily distinguish' the plate, therefore illegal.

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that's not what the leg says - just that it must be distinguishable. it says nothing about from what sort of vehicle

[Monsterbishi]

that's not what the leg says - just that it must be distinguishable. it says nothing about from what sort of vehicle

Arguing something like this in court is never that simple though, all that would result in is the judge explaining that the plates are there so that everyone can identify you, not just a select motoring demographic.

[kinger]

So I wouldn't need a plate on my vehicle to get a WOF?

When I imported mine, it was
1. Brake check
2. Warrant
3. Rego

So, no, a plate isn't needed for a WOF

[Pumba]

Good to see you will be fighting it.

That way there will be some case law on the books for everyone else later on

[Biggles08]

The questions I'd be asking as Mr cop is
1) where is the lighting for this number plate?
2) where is the red reflector required by law?
3) is the plate clearly visable/readable from my drivers seat or a speed camera ?
--Im not having a go at ya here biggles --Im just preparing ya for the likely questions

1) Lighting is there in the form of LED's that light it up supper bright at night.
2) No reflector I'm sorry but that can and has been remedied
3) Clear at day...no problems here...look at these fifty photos taken from every angle possible...the worst angle is where the Ohlins adjuster is in the way however you can still read what the plate is.

[Biggles08]

Arguing something like this in court is never that simple though, all that would result in is the judge explaining that the plates are there so that everyone can identify you, not just a select motoring demographic.

I highly doubt it Monterbishi...a more likely outcome will be the judge looks at all the photos of the plate...including the ones the cop took and saying "well I can clearly read it???"

[Biggles08]

Hey, was the cop a middle aged faggot with a pornstache driving a Honda Accord mufti? I've had mates who have been ticketed by this particular fuckwit - he's got a thing for bikers, maybe his wife left him for one - anyhow, he's well known as petty and full of shit - my friend Lance had his ticket squashed by fuckwit's boss on appeal...

I actually don't think it was ginger...there seems to be another one around now...wippy!

[Biggles08]

Personally, I'd just do a setup the same as 98TLS bike, nice, clean setup, and unquestionably 100% legal.

Mine's fucking legal too...FFS!!!???

[Biggles08]

A few years back a guy pointed a loaded gun through 4wd window and threeatened to shoot me. As I dropped the clutch and high tailed it outa there he let two rounds go at me.

He got community service........why?.......cos he drunk with his cop mates every Friday night.

They will still nail you on the number plate.......you cant win!

Well I'll go down fighting and screaming...that is a defeatist attitude mate...if we don't do things about shitheads like this guy then yes they will win every time...as the saying goes "For evil to prevail, all it takes is for good people to do nothing!"

[Biggles08]

Biggles - what did you do to light the plate?

LED lights...look at the photo again and you can see the light arm coming over the # Plate shining back onto it...no problems with lighting.

[pzkpfw]

LED lights...look at the photo again and you can see the light arm coming over the # Plate shining back onto it...no problems with lighting.

Sorry, can't see it.

Been banging my head trying to figure this out - want to build a tail tidy without paying for all the bits. (Got all the rest figured out).

Have bought various LED's but not yet found a tidy way to mount them.

Good luck with your issue.

Cheers,

[Biggles08]

Sorry, can't see it.

Been banging my head trying to figure this out - want to build a tail tidy without paying for all the bits. (Got all the rest figured out).

Have bought various LED's but not yet found a tidy way to mount them.

Good luck with your issue.

Cheers,

Try again...have a look at the top of the # plate in this pic....see the stainless steel piece arm coming over the plate...there are LED's in that facing the plate....if you can't see it maybe you should go sign up to become a traffic cop...LOL (just kidding bud)

[YellowDog]

Biggles mate, I have been through courts and they are generally a waste of time and money. This is a point of principal and the cop must have been looking for for a fight (or he knows something about the law he has not told you).

To prepare your case, why don't you have a photo taken of you on a ladder at speed camera height, taking a photo of your bike. This will prove the point over visibility and complying with the law. Also, take photos from 45 degree angles at road level to show that any cop will be able to read the plate.

I went to court a few years back over an arguament regarding right of way following a collision. I was in a court with 45 photos and black marker pens to demonstrate my case. The judge smiled and asked the otherside if they had any photos in response to my 'Gotcha'? He then dismissed the case :-)

Just be prepared, 'cos judges like a cut & dry arguament. Do also however check that you are legally within your rights to mount the plate so far forward. The fact that the cop says that he could not see the plate, when clearly he can looks like you have a good case.

Good luck to you.