Bike down on 16, 23 March

[Boob Johnson]

Well if motorcyclists continue to use it as their own personal racetrack, these stupid things will continue to occur. There are good reasons why real race tracks have all the vehicles going the SAME way, and why power/phone poles and fences cannot be found.
Was thru there yesterday and saw many 'temporary' kiwi motorcyclists 'at it'.
Wake up to yourselves.

Oh for goodness sakes

Where does it mention ANYTHING about how he crashed? Other than no other vehicles involved, no more info than that.

Pull ya head in clown

[CookMySock]

but the dip is just big enough to fit a front tyre in. i'll see if i can google earth it.

you can see the dip with googleearth ??

DB

[Boob Johnson]

I know the dip your talking about but I have to disagree with you...it is visible and manageable at a speed above the legal limit...if you are however riding at 10/10 of your/your bikes ability then you will run into problems with it...that is why you should never ever ever ride at 10/10 on the road...keep it at 8/10 max and this will give you room for movement in these unplanned circumstances.

Hard to disagree with that one. RM does ride a lil 2 fiddy so that would explain that I guess.

[CookMySock]

there's a huge kick in the ass bump on on of the corners when you're coming down the hill.

I rode right around the east cape loop and that was all perfectly cool, but there was one lip in the road on a left-hander about 4km east of Awakeri on SH2 that gave my bike a WICKED frame-flex twang. It's only noticeable heading west. I knew it was there as I have travelled that road heaps, but this was my first time over it at 120k on a bike. Not just a bump, but one hell of a whip it was. I shudder to think what it would do at 'speed'.

DB

[CookMySock]

OK, I want to know what's up with all this 10/10, riding at 47.8% on alternate Tuesdays but otherwise 8/10 to be safe stuff.

[snip]

All I ever know is, I feel good or I feel bad. If I feel bad, I slow down until I feel good.

The percentage thing seems pretty unquantifiable to me.

Exactly. This is called "experience". It's not a good thing to rely upon ultimately, because you may not have the required amount of it in this situation, or any of it at all, or you might be tired, or something.

Anyway, whatever may be said about it, people are going to continue the age-old kiwi tradition of extending themselves on motorcycles, and long may it last IMO. Just remember, you are not a god - you are flesh and blood, and your parents will cry for months, if not years, if you kill yerself. Have fun, but be cool please.

DB

[Boob Johnson]

And Katman is at it again

Katman you seem desperate for people to listen to you yet you come across as an ignorant old man, how much longer do you need to be told before YOU work that one out


ALWAYS!!!???


You loose any credibility/respect you may have had when you crap on like this hence why you get the reactions you do from so many. The message is a good one it's just many think your a wanker & don't listen to you. Do you REALLY care about this subject? I think not, because if you did you would pull your head in for the sakes of it. Your just a bitter old man who has a bee in his bonnet about the shitty cards you have either been dealt or how you played with what you got. How bout apply your own riding theories to your own life & pull your head in

[CookMySock]

Permit my further Opinion on this also ;

10/10 is (once you stop shaking) " F**k, I don't how I pulled that off and stayed upright. I do NOT want to do that again"

"Fuck that was stupid. I was well in excess of my and my bikes' ability and was this close to killing my stupid fucking self. Get a fucking clue."

9/10 is " Whoa, that was hard going. I don't think I could take that any faster and stay upright"

"wow, that was too fast. I am playing with statistics doing shit like that. SLOW DOWN!"

8/10 is "Erp, I glad that nothing went wrong there, I think I maybe better slow down"

"FARRRRK, if something went wrong there I would have been killed. That was stupid."

7/10 is "OK, this is good, I'm in the zone and going well, but still feel relaxed and comfortable. I think I'll turn round and go back and do that again"

"Ok I haven't been this quick through here before, but I'm feeling really confident - I wonder why ? I've had my fun - I'll back off for a while I think. No sense playing with statistics. Tomorrow's another day."


DB

[CookMySock]

little LED scale that transmits to your helmet when your riding too hard on the road..

When my visor starts to fog up I'm going too hard.

DB

[CookMySock]

And regardless of the excuses that [anyone] has put forward, I would would put it entirely down to rider fault. We must always ride to the conditions put in front of us.

Precisely. There is only one person with their hand on the throttle and that is YOU. The law quite clearly states that you must be able to stop in the clear distance in front of you.

You can argue with this until the sky turns black, but the bottom line is "if you are dead, then you are WRONG, son."

DB

[Pixie]

True. True

However I suspect the real reason you notice that dip is that it caught you out once by sheer chance , and now you have a sort of mental target fixation. You know the dip is coming up , must watch out for the dip, don't get caught by the dip, where's that dip, oh shit. Happens.

If it's only a small aberation other riders may never encounter it.

The "dip" is,in fact, a step that traverses the north bound lane on the first lefthand bend after the Cleasby Hill look out.
It is a slumped section of road that is due to crappy design and construction of the road.
The best line through the corner is to hug the shoulder line - the drop off is less pronounced there.
And yes it will bounce you into on coming traffic.
They will put up some "temporary" uneven surface signs on it now.

I ride 16 at least once a week.

[sAsLEX]

The "dip" is,in fact, a step that traverses the north bound lane on the first lefthand bend after the Cleasby Hill look out.
It is a slumped section of road that is due to crappy design and construction of the road.
The best line through the corner is to hug the shoulder line - the drop off is less pronounced there.
And yes it will bounce you into on coming traffic.
They will put up some "temporary" uneven surface signs on it now.

There is stuff like this all over, very often unmarked and very often difficult to pick up at even sub speed limit speeds, and most of the time the effect it has on the bike is rather pronounced.

I ride 16 at least once a week.

One would bloody hope so!

[Pixie]

I was talking to a woman at the autoparts co. in Helensville today.She was on the scene of the accident minutes after it happened.
Apparently the rider was heading south and fell off on the up hill stretch of Cleasby Hill.
It would probably have been another routine off,except,he hit one of TRANSIT NZ 's FRANGIBLE SIGN POSTS.
This is what took his leg off.
And you thought wire rope barriers were Transit's only weapon against riders.

I now know of one death and one maiming directly due to these fucking signs

[Brett]

I was talking to a woman at the autoparts co. in Helensville today.She was on the scene of the accident minutes after it happened.
Apparently the rider was heading south and fell off on the up hill stretch of Cleasby Hill.
It would probably have been another routine off,except,he hit one of TRANSIT NZ 's FRANGIBLE SIGN POSTS.
This is what took his leg off.
And you thought wire rope barriers were Transit's only weapon against riders.

I now know of one death and one maiming directly due to these fucking signs

WHich signs are these? IE - What type are they? I am not sure I am picturing the right ones.

[Pixie]

WHich signs are these? IE - What type are they? I am not sure I am picturing the right ones.

Yellow and black chevron signs on corners