Making excuses

[Number One]

Why do I continue to do it? blah blah blah the message blah blah blah...needs to be constantly hammered home. Blah blah

Mungo likes to hit things. AND btw I don't see that you are having the intended impact you 'dream' of.

[Str8 Jacket]

What a tool.

Nah, a tool is useful.

[Bonez]

Without wishing to get caught up in the angst flying around here, I will state (from my own knowledge), that a blow to the head can (and usually does) cause amnesia, both of things that happened before the blow (retrograde amnesia) and things that happened immediatley after the blow (antegrade amnesia - I think I've got them the right way round, if not read backwards).

The period of memory lost can vary from a few minutes to months. Usually the memory never returns

There may also be a period at each end where memories are partial or interrupted. And sometimes the brain will "invent" false memories, in an effort to "fill in the gaps" and make sense of this partial information . Sometimes the gap filling actually comes up with what did happen, sometimes it is completely wrong. Or memories of two different occasions or events will be muddled together . So what the person does "remember" may not be a true memory at all. Hence , for instance , "remembering" riding with a companion, when that was not in fact the case. The companion has been remembered from another occasion and mixed in (or is a normal adjunct to a ride and the brain has "filled it in")

This is a completely well established fact, which can be verified by reference to any reputable medical source. It is completely beyond the control fo the person concerned.

Also the person that has had the head injury can suffer from a total personnality change, suffer from ansiaty and become quite succluded because of this.

[kiwifruit]

I do find myself, sometimes, when riding thinking; "how can i make this situation safer". Something good i took from one of katman's posts....

katman may well come across as a cunt sometimes but he's only trying to help in his own special way :f00kinmsnwink:

[jrandom]

katman may well come across as a cunt sometimes but he's only trying to help in his own special way...

... but the end, in the opinion of the vast majority of folk on this forum, does not justify his means.

I come across as a cunt sometimes, too, but I do my best to judiciously balance that with a bit of love and humility.

Katman is simply relentless in his monotonous offensiveness.

In my opinion, he needs to either change his approach willingly, or be forced to via exclusion from the forum.

[Katman]

I do find myself, sometimes, when riding thinking; "how can i make this situation safer". Something good i took from one of katman's posts....

katman may well come across as a cunt sometimes but he's only trying to help in his own special way :f00kinmsnwink:

f00kin

[sugilite:Me]

Right, it has taken me a little while to track this thread down as I only have a white belt in using the search function it would seem. (This thread has a fair few photos, so sorry non broadband users.) Anyways, check out Katmans post number 15, it perfectly sums up his natural mode of operation. This big noise on safety issues is a load of twoddle. He is a natural stirrer and I feel adds very little to this forum. It was very clear as I labored through all his worthless posts that he collects infraction points and wears them like a badge of honor, clearly it matters not to him and I feel MUCH stronger action needs be taken. He claims to know a thing or two about photography, but clearly he is only intent on belittling others sincere efforts, rather than actually passing on useful info as to how people may better their noble efforts.
Anyhow, here is that thread....
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...99#post1138299

I advise what few katman supporters are left, to have a look at post 15 and consider if this person deserves their loyalty.

[mstriumph]

Why do I continue to do it?

Because the message of accepting personal responsibility and accountability needs to be constantly hammered home. Because if it isn't we will continue to blame cagers, cheesecutters, diesel, tyres, pedestrians, weather etc etc etc, and nothing will ever change.

no disrespect intended but, unfortunately, when you have lost all credibility as you have [judging by the above posts] it's a total waste of time doing it AT ALL because those you want to hear you will stop listening to you [as they currently seem to be doing] .....

ie your 'message', no matter how worthy it may be [and no-one is saying this one isn't], ISN'T going to get through because it's being constantly blocked by the barriers people put up against the inappropriate and sometimes insulting manner in which you seem to deliver it .........

please think about it before you post again ---
you've hurt some feelings in this thread and i can't believe that was your intention

[Katman]

Right, it has taken me a little while to track this thread down as I only have a white belt in using the search function it would seem. (This thread has a fair few photos, so sorry non broadband users.) Anyways, check out Katmans post number 15, it perfectly sums up his natural mode of operation. This big noise on safety issues is a load of twoddle. He is a natural stirrer and I feel adds very little to this forum. It was very clear as I labored through all his worthless posts that he collects infraction points and wears them like a badge of honor, clearly it matters not to him and I feel MUCH stronger action needs be taken. He claims to know a thing or two about photography, but clearly he is only intent on belittling others sincere efforts, rather than actually passing on useful info as to how people may better their noble efforts.
Anyhow, here is that thread....
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...99#post1138299

I advise what few katman supporters are left, to have a look at post 15 and consider if this person deserves their loyalty.

Now that's getting desperate.

[kevfromcoro]

Shit ..is this thread still going....
one thing about KM....He knows how to get our attention...
Mayebe the guy just doesnt know how to come accross very well.
certanaly upsepset a few here

[Mikkel]

Katman, like other on here I must say I was receptive to your message - in the beginning that is. All you're doing now is pissing people off.

A picture is worth a thousand words they say - I think the message that people are trying to get across to you is illustrated by the attachment.

Oh, and if you have something in your eye get a fucking patch for it. P-|

[sugilite:Me]

Now that's getting desperate.

I'm looking at it as being pro-active.

[Bonez]

Here's a suggestion for Katman. Organise a ride, I'm sure it will be well attended. Actually show folk how they should be riding, giving tips on situational awareness along the route, ie stopping and pointing out dangers (these stopping points could be selected a week or so prior), riding technique/style appropriate for open road riding. And maybe have a get together and a bit of a debreif afterwards. Failing that you could do it in conjunction with one of the other "organised" KB runs/events.

This'll also give you the opportunaty to display your photoghaphic skills.

[skelstar]

Listen to your peers Karmaman, you're a nobody. You've already caused me enough grief, find somewhere else to put your soapbox little man.

[Usarka]

Do people really think that this smiley ==> , makes their statement less aggressive/confrontational etc?

Fuck, I hope not.

bahahahahahahaa kak-man are you getting the confrontation you desire?