Shineray. Help?

[hummer123]

Hi,

I’m thinking about buying a bike, just to get to work and back and give dirt riding a go what do you guys think of the bike below. I've also attached an image of the bike. The bike is a Shineray and is around $2000.

Model: NEW250cc
Engine size: 249cc
Kilometres: less than 1000km
Year: 2008

Engine type:japanese standred AAA grade single cylinder,4 stroke
Starting mode: kick/electric start
Max speed(km/h):125
Max power (KW/min):14.8*6500
Max torque (n/min):19.8/5500
Wheel base(mm):1430
Ground clearance(mm):340
Seat height(mm):960
Gross/net weight(kg):130/109
Assembled dimensions(L*W*H)(mm):2020*840*1280
**big luxury exhaust pipe
**full size 18" and 21" wheels
**new adjustment on rear wheel
**digital mileage meter
** adjustable front shocker
**adjustable rear shocker
**engine protector
** front shocker mud protector

[ManDownUnder]

Spend your money on something 2nd hand of a known brand.

1) Depreciation will be less
2) Easier resale if/when you want to do it if it's a known brand
3) You get what you pay for. A new bike at that price will most likely be problematic... I was talking to FROSTY about that very thing yesterday.
4) If I read it right you're new(ish?) to off roading and/or riding? The chances are good you'll drop it at some point, and the newer the bike the more you scrub off the value every time you drop it.

Just my 5c.

They look new and shiney but that's just sales and marketing. What matters are the bits that you can't see.

I'd be looking for something like this personally.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...p-59730297.htm

[breakaway]

I wouldn't do it. From what I've seen/heard, these are sub standard bikes that won't last very long.

Buy something Japanese (Honda, Kawasaki, etc)

[Sellout]

I have one of these in the garage, haven't touched it since the RZ turned up. Must clean it up and sell it....

The gearing is setup for offroad, and it gets to 85-90kph. But it handles quite well on the gravel & dirt!

Are you aware that they come "some assembly required" in 2 boxes?? They also need to be vinned etc after you put them together.

I know that Biggles2000 has a couple of dirt-only bikes from this guy, and he put mine together, so interesting if he has 5c to put in as well!!

They are actually a Xiangtai XTQY3-D150 (Google it for the company website)... but Jerry reckons he has replaced the 150cc with a Zongshen 250cc... Jury is out on this, because the Xiangtai website clearly shows (and states) that it uses a 150cc Zongshen in these models. And it dosn't ffell like any 250cc bike I've ever ridden!

I would suggest you stick to a well known brand, even if it is older and has km's on it. But if you want new, make sure you replace the bolts that come with this one, use Loctite and get in good with your local Honda dismantler cos old Jerry (the TradeMe dealer of these bikes) is in Australia now and his "buddy" in Auckland (Louis from Top Trade who also sells dirt bikes on TradeMe) is a complete tool, a liar and cannot possibly help you in anyway whatsoever. Cos he's a total dickhead.

Parts and backup service from these guys is COMPLETELY non-existant. I waited 8 weeks for a brake caliper with a "customized" hose, (because the rear brake hose rubs on the rear wheel and wears through in about 500kms) and he made a big deal about how hard it was for him to get the hose cut to length with the right fittings on it.... When it turned up, it was a rear caliper with a front brake hose on it. Seriously. The rear and front brakes have different fittings on their respective hoses, and the front has a spring coiled around the hose, and he sent me that and had the gall to charge an extra $80 for the "customized" hose. Prick.

Ok, ok, ok. Sorry. He really gets my goat does that boy.....

Fortunately these bikes are a rip-off of the Honda XT's so you can get parts from Honda dealers and wreckers!! They are also a very basic design so repair work is fairly easy!

While bolts and nuts often fall off (until replaced with decent ones, and Loctite) and parts and their design/ location will never cease to amaze in terms of their absolute stupidity (like the reserve tap behind the bike frame!!), the engine is quite good, and Zongshen have a (deserved) reputation for quality... Pity the whole bike wasn't made by them really!! If you're good with your hands, or just want to learn how a motorbike works, these are great!

If you come down to Chch, or have a mate here, let me know and you can come test ride mine (I have repaired all the bits that break!!!) Or if you do buy one, I can send you all the info on what parts to replace!!!!

[davereid]

If you have been riding for a while, and you are OK with a spanner, you can keep these bikes on the road. Otherwise, they are going to cost you too much money.

You will never reget the extra money spent on a japanese bike.
Really. Really. I mean it.

[CB ARGH]

I've purchased an imported plastic fantastic brand new motorbike before. My honest opinion - keep walking! The main place where you will be let down in is technology, the reason why it is so cheap is because they use cheap parts, and I mean really cheap parts. The one that I had, used absolutely shit suspension, crap brakes (rubbish), crap tyres... basically, it's rubbish!

Can I just say, you can never really have a bike that is great for on and off road use. Off road bikes tend to have more accelleration and less top end, as you need the extra accelleration to climb the steep hills and rough patches that you can and WILL experience whilst riding off road. Where as the on road bikes have more top end, obviously to reduce fuel consumption and reducing engine temperature (don't want it revving at 12,000 for a hundred miles!)

You are far better off buying a second hand Honda XR250, these are excellent machines that will last a lifetime (within reason). I have test ridden a few (1989 and a 2006-7), and they are beautiful machines, which are great for on and off road use.

It once again depends on your budget and what you want out of your bike. If you want a cheap bike with VERY cheap resale value/quality/reliability, go for the one that you're looking at - which I do not reccomend.

Go the Honda's! Plus if you live in Auckland, I'm pretty sure that you get a 25% discount when riding at the Woodhill bike park.

STEVE

[Biggles2000]

I do have 2 Shineray 200cc MotoX bikes. Me and my foster son use them for chasing rabbits on the farm. Had a few problems, like snapping the rear suspension mounts off the frame, nothing major for me but I am an engineer.

I put one of these bikes together for Big R, and it was a pain to get right and the reilability has been far from satisfactory. There is some really dumb design features on these bikes, like the reserve tap is unaccessable, the electronic pickup for the speedo is very easy to damage, the starter button snaps off, the fuel tank is tiny etc etc.

You will get a lot more value and use from a second hand japaneese bike or even one of those new Yamaha commuters. To cut to the chase these are not good enough quality bikes to be used every day.

[Pedrostt500]

Dont buy a Chinese motor bike, the only true way to fix one is to pour petrol over it then light it, you should get 4 to the gallon.