View Poll Results: Will the new rules make for safer noobyness

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  • Yes. The number of crashes and injuries will drop

    6 5.66%
  • No, noobs are noobs whatever they ride, it'll stay the same

    69 65.09%
  • No. Putting noobies on more powerful bikes will just mean more crashes and injuries.

    31 29.25%
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Thread: New learner rules- will they reduce crashes?

  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by mark247 View Post
    It costs $21 to apply for an exemption, and all i get from that is a piece of paper and someones time to read my letter. I bet they are making a profit from that!
    By the time a decision is made on your application and it has been sent to their regional offices it will have been read by at least a couple of people. Staff need to be paid to process that stuff. I don't think 21 bucks is unreasonable. They're probably making a loss when you factor in office time spent on each app.
    I think the 21 bucks might be inclusive of reissuing a new licence with the altered conditions too.
    Either way, i doubt they are breaking even realistically.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixion View Post
    I guess everyone has cottoned on now to the fact that the rules for 6L and 6R licences are shortly going to change. Quiet a lot.

    The salient points, for anyone who's been in a cave for the last couple of days

    • 250cc limit is scrapped, and learner s will be able to ride any bike up to 660cc PROVIDED it's on the approved list.
    • 70kph limit scrapped
    • Over 25 restricted period increased to 12 months

    And a few other bits

    Now, by and large , this is all good from the learners point of view. And I see quite a few already sizing up R6s and the like

    BUT-- the idea was actually to make things safer, to reduce the rate of motorcyclist crashes, fatalities and injuries.

    So, wodda y' reckon? Will it work? Will the new rules mean fewer noobie crashes ?

    Will they work at all? One big problem I see, at present the rule is pretty simple. 6L, 6R, under 250cc.

    Now, it's under 660cc. Yes, the actual MODEL is supposed to be on an approved list, which won't include CBR600s and ZXR600s and the like. But d' y' really reckon y' typical boi-racer wanna-get-a-moddaboike type is going to figure that out? All he'll see (and all his mates will tell him) is that he's allowed a 600 bike. And that R6 is 600 , right?

    So unless the cops are a LOT tougher on policing the restrictions (very unlikely) , I reckon it will come down to a free for all less than 660cc. Which in practice, means pretty much any sprots bike.

    Admittedly, it may not make so much difference, cos those types are probably riding R6s on their 6L already anyway (for a little while, anyway)

    So , wodda y' reckon.

    Going to make it better, fewer crashes

    No difference

    Or is this going to be the biggest thing ever for Gene-O-Kleen ("Evolution you can see")
    Put it this way my next bike is definatly a R6 i love em,
    but i dont think this law is any good maybe they should change it yes.
    but have someone with some experince make the decision not some fatso in government who doesnt no shit.
    I agree with the 70kmph limit this is bullshit, and dangerous.
    I dont agree with learners getting 600cc bikes, but! i think a restricted licence holder should be alowed to have more of a free choice after completeing somesort of riding course. And the newlaw states 150kw/tonne my lil hornet is over this so does that mean my bike is out lawed? I really think someone who knows something about bikes should be working on this law along side the governement.
    At the moment I feel like I have enough experience to ride something thats a tad faster than my Hornet. However I do not feel like Im good enough for a R6
    maybe a bit more experiance on a bigger bike and I would but where can i safely do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMIS View Post
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    At the moment I feel like I have enough experience to ride something thats a tad faster than my Hornet. However I do not feel like Im good enough for a R6
    maybe a bit more experiance on a bigger bike and I would but where can i safely do that?
    I've known a few people like that. Stew used to swap their "slow as, piece of shit" 250 for his TL1000 and then demonstrate the maxim "it's not what you ride, it's how you ride it" to very good effect.
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