Farewell absent friends. You are missed.

**The Pastor** · 9th April 2008, 13:55

Originally Posted by Hitcher

One of the perennial topics of conversation on this site is moaning about how some shit stirrer has achieved the ire of the Moderators and has been sanctioned for breaking the site's rules and disrupting members' quiet enjoyment. Usually from the aggrieved shit stirrer in question.

Another perennial topic is one which begs the reinstatement of members banned for repeatedly objectionable behaviour. This usually comes from people either in or amused by the antics of those referred to in this thread's opening paragraph.

Another perennial topic is people announcing that they have had enough and are leaving, few of whom actually do in reality. These folks are generally miffed attention-seekers.

More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.

It is reasonably easy to assemble a list of "valued and positive contributors" who are no longer here. Some have different reasons for leaving, but for many the toxic, abusive, ungrateful and selfish attitude of some members ultimately proved too much for them. Without fanfare these folk have just logged off and never returned.

The world has pitifully few of these people. If the world is anything like Kiwi Biker, then it doesn't deserve them. We are poorer for their absence.

I can't comprehend what you said, but i think I get the jist of it?

**Toaster** · 9th April 2008, 15:40

Originally Posted by Mom

Has it occured to anyone that perhaps one of the reasons people stop spending so much time on KB is because of a change of life circumstances?

Exactly!! There IS life outside of KB... at least for some of us.

**SixPackBack** · 9th April 2008, 21:55

Many interesting souls have left either completely or for extended periods of time for no other reason than moderator mismanagement or perceived[or real] moderator targeting.

Upon closer inspection this is to be expected. Individuals are picked not for their superlative HR skills or vast management experience but for something far less tangible and murky-no wonder they sometimes fail!

The only members of KB able effect any meaningful change or to manage disputes are members of the KB moderator team. The finger should be pointed firmly in their collective direction before targeting the audience, who have little or no control.

Usually comments such as these would be met with cries of 'if you don't like it fook off'.......ironically avoidance of the 'fook off' routine is now being treated with contemptuous mirth.

**merv** · 9th April 2008, 22:08

Another one I miss on here is LB and like Paul I don't see her too often in person these days. She hasn't posted since 23/08/2006 and says she is too busy and also discovered how to sleep in instead of getting on here at 4 or 5am, so she fits the category of changed circumstances.

**mstriumph** · 9th April 2008, 22:11

Originally Posted by Quasievil

I agree, KB should be a life sentence

.... providing it's a grammatical sentence, eh mr hitcher, sir?

**mstriumph** · 9th April 2008, 22:15

Originally Posted by Fatjim

............ The measure of a person is how they deal with an honest bitchslapping, being able to acknowledge their mistakes and get over it. That commodity is one that is seriously lacking nowadays, and its not just a KB thing...................

sooooooooooo true, Bigfella .... sooooooooooo true!

- they just don't make miscreants like they used to

**Ixion** · 9th April 2008, 22:26

Originally Posted by SixPackBack

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The only members of KB able effect any meaningful change or to manage disputes are members of the KB moderator team. The finger should be pointed firmly in their collective direction before targeting the audience, who have little or no control.

Usually comments such as these would be met with cries of 'if you don't like it fook off'.......ironically avoidance of the 'fook off' routine is now being treated with contemptuous mirth.

True, dat. The Mods Mantra is "Fit In or Fuck Off ". And now a mod is complaining that those who didn't "Fit in" have "Fucked Off". Which is certainly a loss , and I wish they had not. But I wille xtend that wish to al those who have 'fucked off' , or 'been fucked off", not just those who met with moderator approval.

Whne the site ethos is "Fit in or Fuck Off", it is not surprising that some of those who "fuck off' will be the more sensitive souls, while the tougher skinned will retort " Yeah, well fuck you , too"

**scumdog** · 9th April 2008, 22:28

Blah blaah blah, Groundhog Day.......

**Usarka** · 9th April 2008, 22:33

i have a hunch.

that hitcher may have an individual in mind

whos reasons arent related to mods....

**Kickaha** · 9th April 2008, 22:47

Originally Posted by Usarka

i have a hunch.

that hitcher may have an individual in mind

whos reasons arent related to mods....

You obviously don't realise, it is always the mods fault

**Mikkel** · 14th April 2008, 19:56

Originally Posted by Usarka

i have a hunch.

that hitcher may have an individual in mind

whos reasons arent related to mods....

Or individuals - but exactly who Hitcher is thinking about is not obvious as there could be more than one...

Also, there could be more than just one reason for people choosing to leave the site!

As for any other assembly, it is both unfortunate and sad when contributing members decides to call it quits... unfortunate and sad for the assembly, mind you.

**Usarka** · 14th April 2008, 21:37

If it's who i think it is then more than one is apt. if i'm right all the best, the site will be poorer in your absence

but i could be drunk.

**mynameis** · 15th April 2008, 23:56

skidMark

But he's back.

**skidMark** · 16th April 2008, 02:47

Originally Posted by Hitcher

One of the perennial topics of conversation on this site is moaning about how some shit stirrer has achieved the ire of the Moderators and has been sanctioned for breaking the site's rules and disrupting members' quiet enjoyment. Usually from the aggrieved shit stirrer in question.

Another perennial topic is one which begs the reinstatement of members banned for repeatedly objectionable behaviour. This usually comes from people either in or amused by the antics of those referred to in this thread's opening paragraph.

Another perennial topic is people announcing that they have had enough and are leaving, few of whom actually do in reality. These folks are generally miffed attention-seekers.

More disturbing is the gradual and unannounced departure of members who make a valued contribution to this site, provide experience and services on the site and in meat space, and who make a positive contribution to the New Zealand motorcycle community. They do this not because they expect recognition but because they are folk who like being able to help others.

It is reasonably easy to assemble a list of "valued and positive contributors" who are no longer here. Some have different reasons for leaving, but for many the toxic, abusive, ungrateful and selfish attitude of some members ultimately proved too much for them. Without fanfare these folk have just logged off and never returned.

The world has pitifully few of these people. If the world is anything like Kiwi Biker, then it doesn't deserve them. We are poorer for their absence.

I'm a prick on here and a little smartass, but i have actually contributed alot of helpful information, i gave cowboyz some advice today on punishment for the son on the pc, serious help. and was returned abuse.

i also helped katman by pming him how to embed a you tube video...

with the opening line ....since i'm not a total cunt... and told him...

the reply PM ...no thank you nothing of a sory instead he quoted

"since i'm not a total cunt"

then finished with, i beg to differ.

i'm not suprised people leave not for the rude stuff on here i think as alot is quite funny, but that when genuine help is offered not even a simple courtesy thankyou... not even silence, no instead the person helping gets slung abuse.

Gift horse...mouth, springs to mind.

ahh well

Karma's a mother fucker.