Lane-splitting at 90kph!

[xwhatsit]

You attribute rationality where empirically I have found little. And I ride with that knowledge in mind.

That is a truth I think I'll try and hold onto when riding.

Another weird spot of localised cager madness is the (northbound) short bit between the Newmarket Gillies Ave onramp, and the Khyber Pass offramp. There's a sort of merging/mixing section there where people duck and dive all over the place in a rush to get from the fourth lane to the exit lane in 200 metres.

[fizbin]

Anyway I've gotta head into town now, hope I don't get pulled over for riding in the right lane on the motorway when I'm not passing!

Sorry i have to agree with Ragingrob here. I was going to keep out of this but i have to say somthing!
There is no fast lane in new zealand. one driver wether it be bike or cage has just as much right as the next to drive in what ever lane they wish be it lane 1,2,3 on a motorway.
my point was splitting when traffic is already moving at pace is irrasponsible as well a danger for you and the cars you are passing.
one minor adjustment from a car in that sort of traffic and there would be no about that you would end up under some persons car. i then would ot be blaming the car for that.
bikes that think they own the raod i would bet cause a lot more accidents than they would like to think.

[Usarka]

Sorry i have to agree with Ragingrob here. I was going to keep out of this but i have to say somthing!
There is no fast lane in new zealand. one driver wether it be bike or cage has just as much right as the next to drive in what ever lane they wish be it lane 1,2,3 on a motorway..

re-read El Strango's post / link

Where there are two or more lanes on your side of the centre line:

• keep in the left-hand lane as much as you can
• don't use the lane closest to the centre line if you will hold up other vehicles.

The lane closest to the centre line should only be used when:

• you want to pass another vehicle
• you want to turn right
• the left-hand lane is full with other traffic or is blocked.

[avgas]

motorbikes a bad - HTFU or drive

[90s]

Sorry i have to agree with Ragingrob here. I was going to keep out of this but i have to say somthing!
There is no fast lane in new zealand. one driver wether it be bike or cage has just as much right as the next to drive in what ever lane they wish be it lane 1,2,3 on a motorway.

Re-inforcing Usurka the above quote is TOTALLY INCORRECT. If you think this you really need to learn how to ride.

From LTNZ:
"When driving on a motorway:keep left, unless you are passing"
http://www.landtransport.govt.nz/roa...y-driving.html

It is a bane of driving in NZ that people and even some police I have spoken to do not understand this.
There is no "overtaking lane" on a motorway in ANY country. In countries with lane discipline there are lanes, and you are required to drive in the left lane unless overtaking.
NZ is one.
In countries without lane discipline you can drive in any lane on a motorway.
NZ is NOT one.

People that sit in the middle or right lane ("fast") for no other reason than laziness or because they don't want to move in and out of lanes as required cause disruption, create congestion, add to uncertainty (I have been invovled in traffic flow modelling that proves this) and probably have caused global warming and sub-prime crisis (evidence less clear).

As the saying goes - "burn them"

[ElCoyote]

Ok, so this thread is about a motorcyclist lane splitting in traffic at 90kph... On a busy motorway do you expect people to keep left unless "passing"?? Haha. I don't quite think that's a road rule... It's not actually a road rule anyway to keep left unless passing on the motorway.

It "IS" an offence to fail to keep as near left as practicable. Oh......and always has been.!!

[ElCoyote]

This tells me that you have NEVER been on a state highway in the lower North Island. Can't remember if there are any of the keep left signs further up north. I'm so used to seeing them every day I tend not say to myself "Wow, yet another keep left sign"

You are quite correct about the open road and passing lanes but they are not posted on "motorways". Why I don't know. They are in Australia where staying in the outside lane merits a serious fine or a Kenworh for a trailer.

[skidMark]

If you are lane splitting fast enough by the time a cage reacts the biker has already passed

Exactly, which is why i do it fast, safer than doing it slow...

Mean idiots don't open thier doors on you etc, ive gone past people by the time they react and open thier door to be an asshole i have already gone past.

At which point you can give them ze bird.

[Ragingrob]

This tells me that you have NEVER been on a state highway in the lower North Island. Can't remember if there are any of the keep left signs further up north. I'm so used to seeing them every day I tend not say to myself "Wow, yet another keep left sign"

Heres a picture of one of these signs. I took it especially for you

Bro.... First of all this is not a motorway, it's a highway, going into a passing lane. Completely irrelevant to this thread...OK?

[Ragingrob]

It "IS" an offence to fail to keep as near left as practicable. Oh......and always has been.!!

Really? Why is not everyone in the left lane on the empty motorway then? Cops always cruise in the right lane... Tut tut! It's not an offence to drive in the right lane on the motorway!

[Weaver]

Bro.... First of all this is not a motorway, it's a highway, going into a passing lane. Completely irrelevant to this thread...OK?

Reading back through all the posts, I've noticed that you have been saying motorway the whole time. I do apologise. Never the less, keep left.

[sAsLEX]

It's not an offence to drive in the right lane on the motorway!

Its fuckin stupid though..... but you are allowed to do it.


So carry on being a fucktard and I will use the often unused far left lane and pass everyone on the inside.

[ElCoyote]

Really? Why is not everyone in the left lane on the empty motorway then? Cops always cruise in the right lane... Tut tut! It's not an offence to drive in the right lane on the motorway!

Yes it is as you are not as far left as practicable. Empty or not it is an offence.

[90s]

Really? Why is not everyone in the left lane on the empty motorway then?

Because many of them are frickin' morons.

Cops always cruise in the right lane... Tut tut! It's not an offence to drive in the right lane on the motorway!

Yes, it is an offence not to keep left on the motorway unless overtaking.

Just because other people are driving like idiots does not make it OK for you to do it. Just because some people ride like squids does it make you want to as well (answer - probably yes ... )

[xwhatsit]

Its fuckin stupid though..... but you are allowed to do it.


So carry on being a fucktard and I will use the often unused far left lane and pass everyone on the inside.

Hahah yes, it's funny how often I cruise past at 110kph in a left lane all the cars sitting in the fast lane at 90kph. Auckland's `motorway' system is a bit of a behavioural anomaly at times.